Building A Team For The New Bernabeu - The Summer Transfer Thread

We also have Carlo Ancelotti who won an astonishing 22 games in a row with James, Isco, Modric, Kroos midfield until Modric injury derailed that season. Getting the best out of Vini alongside Mbappe and Benz will be easy peasy for him. Barca are going nowhere under Xavi with Auba level strikers. Bayern just made it clear that they won't sell Lewa even if he doesn't renew.

 

PSG beat Dortmund, Atalanta, and RB Liepzig to get to the final. Not exactly a gauntlet. Also, they had Neymar playing in the CF position (Messi position) with a natural right winger (left footed) Di Maria and Mbappe on the left.

So we’re going to have Mbappe on the right, and Benz at the CF (drops in deep) and Vinny as a free role?

 

Mbappe missed that golden chance in the final coming in from left iirc. Neymar had a free role in Bernabeu. He assisted Mbappe goal near middle and he was on the left when Modric took the ball away from him that led to our goal. I expect Vini to have similar freedom and he's way more hardworking than jogger Neymar.

 

I find this idea that we’re somehow screwed unless we sign BOTH Haaland and Mbappe (and that we’re not showing enough ambition in not putting together TWO astronomical, record wage, bids at once) incredibly strange.

Believe it or not it is very possible to build a juggernaut without either of those players, let alone both.

Only one team can sign him, and there’s simply no way Flo can give him a bigger (or even the same) offer than he’s giving Mbappe, which I’m guessing is what it would take to match City’s proposal.

 

By all indications, he wanted to come here but Flo didn’t want him enough. That’s the reality of it all. We’re going all in for Benz for the next few years, as YS said we’re taking a massive risk.

 

I saw a stat last year that 70% of our attack through the flanks have come through left from Ron- Marcelo days and that hasn't changed since Ron left as well. So even during prime Bale - Carva days, attack was 70% lopsided towards left. That trend continued with Vini.

Vini will defend on the right when we don't have possession, but no way Carlo pigeonhole him as a right winger in attack.

 

If Benz is unavailable, we roll with Vini Mbappe Rodrygo. All three capable of scoring in good numbers. Haaland was not on the scene couple of years back. Maybe there will be a dynamic number 9 couple of years later to takeover from Benz. Maybe that's Flo's next prodigy Endrick. [emoji41]

 

Meh, no one said screwed. Only that they want the best of both worlds to ensure the club's future.

For all we know Halaand will bust at City and we will celebrate Florentino being shrewd.

However to act like this isn't a miss or at least that having Halaand with Vinicius, Rodrygo and Mbappe wouldn't be fantastic is being absolutely blind if you ask me.

I mean we have people citing Mbappe not needing a CF yet ignore that was part of the reason they fell short. Even when placed centrally he would move wide and attack his best from both wide areas.

 

I have seen you talk this kid up but have you actually followed his matches and watched them all... not just the highlights?

For instance I followed Rodrygo match to match at Santos. I did so for some time and spoke about him before it because a popular due to highlights.

What I'm asking is we aren't sure what Ebdrick will be from just highlights. Now if you can ascertain his value outside of the highlights; match to match... then I will believe on this hype.

 

I will follow his pro career once he starts playing for the senior team. Remember we signed Vini before he was promoted to Flamengo first team. I started watching their matches to follow Vini when he got promoted. I still defended his signing when many blasted Flo for spending 45 ME on a 16 year old with no pro experience.

That was all based on the talent he showed at that age in U-17 tournaments. Highlights package as well as every touch compliation of a particular youth level game were available before Vini made his Flamengo pro debut. I feel Endrick is similar level of talent after watching such stuff. Maybe I am wrong, but imo he's the next super talent from Brazil.

 

We don't need a CF not because of Mbappe, but because we are getting el crack Borja Mayoral.

 

If you haven't actually followed him match to match you can't speak so definitively.

What does signing the player have to do with this discussion?

I never said we shouldn't Endrick. We definitely should.

Yes and after seeing him bring returns match to match (don't remember you commenting on his matches... not highlights... full matches) we knew we had something with a projection.

No promises.

You are promising Endrick will be one of the best players ever when he hasn't even made a first team debut.

We don't know. We hope but let him first enter the first team and see how he continues to develop.

 

Hakimi alongside Mbappe in Madrid. Showing him around the city? Hakimi said he wants to return to RM at some point, but it's unlikely before 2026 unless Qatar sells the club after 2022 WC.

 

We signed only Vinicius for that kind of money before he made pro debut. Rodrygo was signed iirc after he scored a hattrick for Santos first team. I do remember you taking about Rodrygo as a highly rated prodigy at Santos before he made pro debut.

Endrick is courted the same way as Vinicius before his pro debut. RM, Barca, PSG etc invited him to their stadiums. Hence I said Flo will go all out for him competing against Barca and PSG. Club must have done their homework if they spend 45-50 ME on Endrick this summer even before he makes his pro debut.

I am just saying I believe in the hype after seeing his U-17 compilation. Yes, it's not the detailed process to judge a talent or anything . Several people in Brazil were hyping up Vini after his performances in U-17 South American tournament. Many players don't live up to the hype but there are also some talents that's obvious to see for everyone and for me, Endrick is like that.

 

Again I'm not against the signing. I want the signing.

I'm against you claiming he is going to be one of the best in the world when we aren't sure yet. Let him at least debut first and watch his matches not just the highlights.

You haven't watched one full match yet you're protecting this kid to be an all-timer. Take it easy.

 

🚨🎙| @David_Ornstein: "Real Madrid is a bit of a dream for Erling Haaland. I think the view was that, if he goes to Madrid now, he'd be there for life. Whereas coming to City, it could be a bit of a stepping stone." #rmalive

— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) May 9, 2022

 

Given the wages he'd be on at City, I don't see how he gets to Madrid in the future without a significant pay cut. City may be seen as a stepping stone if he doesn't want to commit to any particular team for the entirety/majority of his career but he must understand that he'd be pricing himself out of a lot of future moves unless he's willing to do what Mbappe is rumored to be doing right now.

 

Again, what does “Flo didn’t want him enough” mean? Not willing to bend over to the often ridiculous demands made by that agency? Not willing to match City’s financial offer? No one really knows. If he was available to us at a reasonable deal then yeah I’d agree we’d be fools to miss out. But I haven’t seen any proof that’s the case.

Im with you on all of this, I would’ve loved to see a 2009 redux with the team scoring goals by the bucket next season.

I’m just not sure I view it as a huge “miss” given that our attack is in very very good shape (ie we will have the two best strikers on the planet!) for at least the short term, and more importantly given that we have no idea what Haaland’s demands were. It would’ve been great to have him but we’ll almost certainly be fine without him.

 

Strongly doubt that. Just more BS they use to attempt to paint over the fact and make it more acceptable.

Same thing occurred with Pogba.. from his actual transfer cost to the agent fees and wages; mostly exaggerations and lies.

I just hope we end up better off in the end like we have when we missed out on Pogba. God knows I just knew he had to come here and I was sorely wrong there.

I hate when I read stuff like this because that just isn't the truth. The real truth is Florentino will do anything for a player he actually wants that badly.

I have said for some time now that Halaand will come dependent on if Florentino actually wants him. When Florentino wanted Hazard he didn't care he had a year left on his contract and gave €100M, +€40M agent fees and bonuses, +€20M in easy to reach clause variables and +€35M in wages.

Yet now we have to hear about a generational talent like Halaand being "worth it"? Now we hear about injury concerns?

Ahaha.. spare me that bullshit



BTW the same spacing questioning spending less than €150M on the transfer, agent fees and bonus are saying Halaand has a clause so we can buy him in the future for €150M.... agent fees and bonuses not included. It's literally brainless talk.

 

Now whom will realmadrid sign if mbappe renew with PSG as halland already signed with mancity ?

Lewo is stuck in buyern and renaldo is not CF

 

Cule guys (Txiki and Fran) at City will try to push him to Barca when he wants to leave 4 years later. Mbappe vs Haaland might have developed into proper rivalry by then as well. I do think he will play in Spain after City stint. Pep won't stay there forever.

 

Florentino wouldn't have passed on Haaland if Mbappe wasn't a done deal.

 

They'll have to do some "creative" accounting to pull it off though.