Cameron Carter-Vickers at Celtic

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  1. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
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    You mean he can only leap his height?
    All kidding aside, His passing range is better than MRob's
     
  2. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    CCV sure, especially given his play this season for Celtic end to end. Miles Robinson’s injury has ~0 to do with Brooks, not sure why it would make ~any difference to his standing (if Zimm went down it sure would).
     
  3. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Mathematically, the title is not yet decided but the reality is that CCV is going to finish the season with a Champion's medal and he's played well in UEFA ball too.

    Celtic really want to keep him and there's definite interest from EPL sides - which was the purpose of the loan to begin with. IMO unless an EL challenger like Leicester want him as a starter (not rotator and certainly not depth) he should do everything in his power to stay at Celtic for another season and see who comes in for him next summer. If he stays, there's CL ball and Rangers' EL heroics this season mean the Old Firm is going to be more thoroughly scouted.

    He won't be 25 until December, so he' got time to wait and see if the club he wants comes in. Joining an EPL bottom-feeder right now could become a bit of a golden handcuff: too expensive for any but the very best continental sides and the top half EPL sides will try to wait until he's out of contract.

    There are far worse places than Celtic to play until you make your last big move.
     
  4. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    he could... ya know.... also get a fair shake at his parent club for a change...
     
  5. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    He's only had like 6 years to convince him that he has Prem level defensive ability. I think he's had his chance. That being said, guys develop at their own pace, and he may have now gotten to the point of being able to hang in the Prem. Who knows. It doesn't sound like Spurs are fighting tooth and nail to keep him though.
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Any midtable EPL team would be better than Celtic. Playing 4 serious games a year in the league is a joke.
     
  7. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    i mean, if you consider 0 run of games a chance. sure.

    He's proven himself well at Celtic... and perhaps he is only SPL quality, but i don't think that's the case. I have a hunch he is Spurs quality, albeit cb3+4 not 1+2. If he can start for a side in the 6-11 range of the table, that isn't bad at all. We shall see. Should be a decent silly season for him.

    and yeah, apologies to those that support Celtic or the Scottish Prem. It just ain't what it used to be. But it is nice that he was able to crush it out there this past season.
     
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  8. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Newcastle interest:

     
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  9. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    If you argue that Celtic would be his career-highlight move then yes, a random mid-table EPL side beats Celtic.

    If you think he can do better, shouldn't he stay at Celtic until he gets a team that suits him - starter, plays to his strengths, etc. - rather than signing a "golden handcuff" that ties him to the likes of Southampton for 4 seasons?

    Celtic pay well enough, he's highly valued there, is a lock starter and has CL ball next season. Shine there and you could easily see the likes of West Ham knocking on his door.
     
  10. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic

    Be still my beating heart!
     
  11. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I'm not sure that playing with Celtic will be taken more seriously by top clubs than playing in Championship, and he's aready proven himself there. There is absolutely nothing wrong in being career mid table EPL starter, and I don't even think that he has a potential to play above that level.
     
  12. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Better to be a starter at Newcastle I'd say, but safer for him at Celtic where game time is a given. To establish himself in the national team it's probably better to go for Celtic. Permanent move soo important now though, he has to settle somewhere and establish himself in the national team.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Berhalter doesn't really seem to care about club play (either level or form) when it comes to the national team, so I don't think it particularly matter where he goes. It's way more important for him to have a spectacular camp next month.

    Whether he's in hoops or stripes come August isn't all that relevant for his international career.
     
  14. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Very true, but a player has to back himself and the best way to do that is by taking on challenges.

    That said:
    Starter at Newcastle is definitely superior to starter at Celtic.

    Starter at Celtic is about equal to rotator at Newcastle.

    Starter at Celtic is waaay superior to depth at Newcastle (or anywhere else)

     
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  15. nthemsum

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    Jan 14, 2006
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    Celtic has a big fan base (one of them) and will read anything clickbait worthy about CCV, so there are plenty of rumors and stories being created. Carter-Vickers is always a hot commodity at the end of the spring only for Tottenham to hang on to him. Last year he was an above average defender in the championship and rumor was that Bournemouth was going to try and purchase him along with a few other clubs. But Tottenham, who never have him in their plans wants as much value as they can get for the guy. So they act like they might use him up until the end of the transfer window. Tottenham fans always seem to think CCV performs well enough in pre-season friendlies to make the bench but the loan cycle continues.

    This upcoming season, I could see the same thing happening. Tottenham just doesn’t want to let the guy go for anything above market valley. For those saying that he isn’t in Tottenham’s plans. Those plans have changed as frequently as the staff. The only thing that is known is that that they want above market value for CCV but has he finally played well enough to convince another club to make that move. I hope so.
     
  16. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    Team bone-saw here we come! Can he hack it?

    I really hope he gets a fair crack at Tottenham before the window closes. Whether CCV has developed the pace and game sense to succeed in the eyes of Conte remains to be seen.
     
  17. BostonRed

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  18. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    If he is still wanted as a starter at Newcastle, he should go. They will have massive money incoming to build an offensive juggernaut going forward. Relegation shouldn’t be an issue. Get paid. Get starts. Extend the middle finger at Spurs when he gets the chance.
     
  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    I don't think this is at all an accurate statement.
     
  20. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
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    I feel like he's probably not good enough for Newcastle and what they want to be. In January the two center backs Newcastle were being linked to was Sven Botman and Diego Carlos, both guys who clearly above CCV's level.
     
  21. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
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    Officially league champions after 1-1 draw:



    I have no idea what this is about:

     
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  22. Casper

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    Mar 30, 2001
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    Starts the finale. Seems like an intense day for the defense, as they lead 5-0 against Joe Efford (starting) and Motherwell, who have managed one shot on goal.
     
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  23. glutton4Bolts

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    His distribution has grown by leaps and bounds this season. Really eager to see if he can keep it up playing in a better league.
     
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  24. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
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    United States
  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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