Transfer Thread 2021/2022

Discussion in 'Borussia Dortmund' started by eaglespark, May 25, 2021.

  1. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    We are a second tier team, because a complacent management is simply satisfied with mediocrity, and decrying the gulf in finances between Dortmund and Bayern.

    A obligated buy clause at the optionality of the club would mean that Dortmund need not buy a Reinier (who should have never been loaned in the first place), the option of turning it down should the loan have not worked.

    So let me get this straight hava, it has been 10 years of mismanagement by of this club, when should we b emotional ? Should we wait 20, how about 30 ? 40 ? Before we wake up to the realisation that there is something inherently wrong here ?? There is no fight here, it is just placid fking mediocrity... and attitudes like the one you exhibit, are what have gotten us here to begin with.
     
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is brilliant. Should be pinned up in the clubs head office.
     
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  3. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Why doesn't the club look into bringing in Luka Jovic as the Haaland replacement?

    He has proven and successful BL experience and should be availably for cheap, especially since Real owe us for milking us out of 13M for the Reinier loan.

    Unlike a young up an commer who will treat us as a stepping stone club, Jovic is no longer in that category so we wouldn't have to deal with the Haaland BS. I would much rather the club concentrate on those type of players than the Reims guy (Etikete?) and other youngsters like him.
     
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  4. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  5. Tonel

    Tonel Member

    Sporting
    Aug 22, 2021
    Not really sure if Luka Jovic still has it though. Basically 3 seasons in a row with poor form. His loan spell at Frankfurt in the Rueckrunde of last campaign wasn't even necessarily all that productive. And Frankfurt's offensive system tended to make strikers better than they actually are. Just like how Andre Silva (who outshined Jovic) now looks very mehh at Leipzig. Jovic is still relatively young overall but needs to put in the work to prove himself again.
     
  6. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Schlotterbeck joining us is official now.
     
  7. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    So next season we have a Nick CB pairing.
     
  8. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    As i said before, BvB needs to start bringing more german players to their squad, they lost that German ID, they become more like PL clubs with 80% of foreign players in first 11 and then they wonder how some British, French kid wants to leave after 2 season?
    The problem is now they will force Gittens who will most likely become a star in the next 2-3 seasons and will sell him for 50-100M and here we go all over again..
    Goals of BvB:
    1.Profit
    2.
    3.
    4.Results...
     
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  9. thisisthelife

    thisisthelife Member

    Nov 1, 2015
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    Credit, where credit is due - our defence is shambolic and it is the first area to be strengthened. Sule and Schlotterbeck should be our main pairing next season and it is instantly better that whatever we can field now. If the rumours about Akanji to United for 30 million are true, then we should definitely go for it. Zagadou and Hummels as back-ups.

    And another bright spot - Witsel leaving BVB in the summer is confirmed!!! Hazard next please!
     
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  10. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Our priority needs to be offloading Schulz and his salary as we could sign a depth LB for much cheaper. RB is another huge priority for us followed by an impactful DM.
     
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  11. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina


    Alright another bit of good news (if true)...Adeyemi is signing on without a buy-out clause as has been reported earlier this month.
     
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  12. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    According to Bild, we are interested in Gladbach's LB Bensebaini who is valued between 12M-15M
     
  13. thisisthelife

    thisisthelife Member

    Nov 1, 2015
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria


    Okay, if we manage to bag Adeyemi with no release clause I would call that a win. Him, Sule and Schlotterbeck before even the window has begun is a good start. Add Witsel leaving to the mix and all of this is wonderful news. Haaland was never going to stay, so no surprises here.

    I hope that we keep Brandt and Dahoud and build around them. Another thing would be bringing Knauff back and giving Moukoko more playing time. As previously stated - we seriously need to bolster our fullbacks. Meunier was good under Rose, hope he can continue in that way. No idea what will happen with Morey, hope he can be a part of the squad next season.

    All in all, I expect the likes of Hazard and Akanji to be sold. Would keep Can around, but only if he is used in midfield, not as emergency option at CB or fullback.
     
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  14. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sule, Schlotterbeck & Adeyemi is a good start. I also hope Dahoud, Brandt and Moukoko stick around to build a German core. As for FB’s the club first needs to find someone to buy Schulz, if that happens Bensebaini would be pretty meh imo, I would rather see Raum sign. Of course Rothe and Semic could be slowly integrated too, although Rose generally seems reluctant to play youngsters.

    Haaland replacement looks most likely to be Hlozek, Haller or Ekitike. Personally I think Haller would be a better choice, proven in BL and not at an age where he will be looking to use the club as a stepping stone. Hlozek is very talented though.
     
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  15. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Raum has a 30M release clause and there is no way Dortmund is paying that nor is he worth anything close to that. Bensebaini is another meh player but for the reported 12M is much more appealing than Raum. The one thing about Bensebaini that appeals to me is that he is an asshole type of player on the field and we could definitely use one of those.

    I would rather get a Bensebaini for cheap if that meant we can spend more money on signing an impactful DM that this team dearly needs.
     
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  16. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    I hope we don't lose Moukoko, Dahoud and Brandt! It's sad how Hazard took so many minutes away from both Brandt and Moukoko. The latter should have been played even if the wing is not his preferred position. I'm sure he would have taken it!
     
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  17. BvB_Peon

    BvB_Peon Member

    Apr 14, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    It seems official now that Haaland is going to ManCity. It seems we only get 60M Euro ...

    From their own site:
    Manchester City can confirm we have reached an agreement in principle with Borussia Dortmund for the transfer of striker Erling Haaland to the Club on 1st July 2022.
     
  18. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    60M for Haaland, sorry but that is just poor bussines when you consider your paid 20M+ Minimum 25-30M fees to Mino and his dad and his salary in Dortmund these years.. And the worst part, you didnt win nothing
     
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  19. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Meanwhile Bayern is apparently going after 2 amazing players from Ajax in Mazraoui and Gravenbech and also Sadio Mane.
     
  20. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'm very optimistic about the recent signings but I guess we also have to understand that we'll be rebuilding over more than one transfer window. A very good FB and midfielder are probably still needed.

    Moukoko and Adeyemi give us the speed we need in attack. I agree that Moukoko needs more playing time and unless there are injury/fitness concerns or he just sucks in training, there is no reason to keep him on the bench in these last games. If he doesn't work out and cannot make the next step, so be it.
    Losing Knauff (who will be in Frankfurt for another season) as the only agile and fast player on the wings and seeing how promising he plays for Frankfurt is annoying enough.
     
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  21. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I was hoping we would be in for Mazraoiu as well but wasn't meant to be.

    My brother-in-law is a huge Ajax fan and he say that he has no qualms about Gravenberch leaving as "he's just another Riechedly Bazoer" who will play a great game and then follow it up by 10 disappearing acts. He is still young so maybe his inconsistencies will improve but the pressure at Bayern will be huge.
     
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  22. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Since the whole point of signing Haaland was to sell him later on at an exorbitant price, I feel like the club got ripped off selling him at a mere €60m.
     
  23. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    So...the only point about signing Haaland wasn't to sell him later for an insane fee?
    Without a doubt, we could have gotten more last summer but apparently the club wasn't only interested in maximizing the financial gain.
    Last year, I thought Chelsea was braindead to not spend 20-30 million more for Haaland instead of Lukaku (if Haaland would have been willing to go there).
     
  24. BvB_Peon

    BvB_Peon Member

    Apr 14, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Then what were they after? This club achieve nothing at all this year and having Haaland or not didn't change a thing. Haaland is leaving me with a sour taste in the mouth, he just help mask our complete lack of completeness for a while...
     
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  25. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I think the club is going for sustainable growth/development but it's obviously not working out. Other teams get more out of the resources they have. We didn't get better from the money we made from Auba, Dembele, Sancho or Pulisic. We actually managed to get worse relative to the other teams in the league and that's an embarrassing failure.
    But we were also not driven by a philosophy to make quick bucks with those players. They chose to leave by themselves and not due to us offloading them. Some even had to stay longer than they would have preferred which resulted in lower transfer fees.

    But you nailed one aspect in the end and it's something I mentioned when Haaland started playing for us. He was masking problems the team has/had as a whole due to his massive impact. I fully believe that he saved our CL spots in his first 1.5 seasons (and Favre's job). A few top performers were enough to get somewhat satisfying results like the Cup win and the comeback to get back into the CL spots.

    Getting Haaland for something like 20 million (+Raiola tax) was such a no-brainer.
    However, the rest of the team didn't make the necessary evolutionary steps to be set up for the modern demands. That's where the management failed and not when they got Haaland. Even more expensive transfers like Malen, Schürrle, Schulz or Hazard didn't work out or should have never been brought into the team.
     
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