Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    We can add "professional soccer dad" to the lexicon. It ultimately says more about the father than the son.
     
  2. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    Ha - I’m not a Chelsea or United fan. Blech. We were talking about LUKAKU - during his time at United he seemed to underwhelm.
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    The obvious pick would be Pochettino if/when PSG lets him go.

    I don’t know how much longer Tuchel will last, but he’s definitely not going anywhere this summer.
     
  4. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    Havertz has started 3 of the last 5 I think? No one will be shocked if he doesn't start the next.
     
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  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Role player for 100m? I’m not buying that and it’s worth noting Pep didn’t seem to want Lukaku. Regardless, I think Pep would also have expected more production out of Grealish. 2 goals and 2 assists with that many minutes on that team is pretty poor.
     
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  6. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
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    Since working his way back from covid, he has started 9 of the last 10 league games. The one match he didn't start was a rotation due to games a few days before and after. He subbed on for 30 in that one. Before covid he was nearly always a starter in the league. The most he has gone without starting in the league when healthy is two games (9/25 and 10/2). He started a CL match and went 90 at Juventus between those two non-starts in the league. So I think there is pretty convincing evidence that Tuchel views him as a guy that only misses starting games due to injury/illness/fatigue.
     
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  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    Sorry I think maybe I was confused in one of the games - he came out at halftime?

    I am personally less convinced that Havertz has outright won the job but he has certainly been more likely of late as the least bad option.
     
  8. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He came out of HT of a game that they were dominating. Pulisic came in for him. So Tuchel rested his starter once the game was a blowout.

    And I apparently replied to the wrong post of yours. For those not paying close attention, I intended to reply to the Havertz post.
     
  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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  10. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Any assessment of TT's use of Lukaku includes an implicit assessment of Lukaku's capabilities. I am pretty sure my sense of what he is capable of (in the EPL) is different from dark knight's. That's just two people drawing different inferences from the same info. I think of Lukaku as one of the top target CFs in the world right now--the kind of person off of whom a potent combination play attack could be organized. The kind of thing we saw at great moments with Giroud, only better.
     
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  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's not Tuchel, it's Chelsea. Chelsea has always had a reputation as a defensive team. Tuchel was not considered defensive in Germany or France. In fact Dortmund and PSG had some of the best seasons, scoring-wise, under Tuchel.

    Dortmund
    15/16 +48 <--
    16/17 +32

    ----> Tuchel out
    17/18 +17
    18/19 +37
    19/20 +43

    PSG:
    18/19 +70 <--
    19/20 +51

    ----> Tuchel out
    20/21 +58
    21/22 +45 (with 3 games left)

    If anything, he seems to benefit from the new manager bounce more than others.
     
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    Jun 5, 2019
    My bad - totally missed that.
     
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  13. zanderbz

    zanderbz Member

    May 12, 2005
    United States
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    United States
    TBF, you weren’t the only one.
     
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  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I'd agree with that. But I also think Giroud was very underestimated. A great center forward is a very valuable thing!
     
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  15. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Parents should leave their adult children alone to manage their professionally careers. Or at least, advise from behind the scene and stay away from the spotlight.
     
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  16. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
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    I always liked Giroud. Lots of class to his game. But, he is slow. Italy is a good place for him.
     
  17. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    I will have to flip the script around and ask: Would KDB and Salah be the same players if they were playing for Chelsea?

    Werner, Havertz, and Lukaku were banging in goals on the regular before them come to Chelsea. What happened? They all stunk.
     
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  18. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
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    KDB and Salah are special players. I'm not sure anyone has a quicker release than Salah and KDB can score from anywhere. If Werner goes back to Bundesliga, he will score. Havertz would also score more in Bundesliga but I wouldn't give up on him. Lukaku would do better in Serie A but maybe there is more from him in the Prem.
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Can anyone help create the rumor that PSG or Inter or Barca want Pulisic?
     
  20. Jadentheman

    Jadentheman Member

    Jul 1, 2013
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea always been a mess of a club. When Pulisic first transferred there, they were a messed and sanctioned as well :ROFLMAO:. And before even that it was a mess, even during the Hazard era. In fact, Eden always bailed Chelsea out, there was depencia for Hazard. And I'm pretty sure before that they were a mess.

    And where would Pulisic transfer to anyway? There are not many clubs that fit his play style.

    Maybe people thought he would have had the Hazard role. Chelsea was an attacking team during that period in the early 2010s.
     
  21. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    What is his play style in your opinion
     
  22. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    I’m less arguing about Lukaku’s capabilities- although I’m probably less certain as you that he’s good enough to play for the best teams in the world - I’m saying I’m not convinced that TT is the biggest factor in his struggles, just one of many - not least of which is the lack of world class creativity on the team.

    There are valid questions about Ronaldo’s making United better, but the guy is still finding ways to score. The best players find a way and I’m surprised Lukaku hasn’t done more.
     
  23. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Conte knew how to use Lukaku and win. He’s a fine coach. Wins everywhere he goes and lots of silverware. He took Kulusevski from Juve- a questionable move- and transformed him as an attacker.

    I love his passion as well.

    I’ll defend Tuchel’s record but it’s just not fun to watch much of the time and Tuchel is annoying in many ways.
     
  24. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    And you know that how?
     
  25. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Because one is an asset and the other is an ass.
     
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