Going to Qatar 2022: tickets, accommodations, etc. (non-politics)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Qatar' started by Danny Ascencio, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. Iran fan

    Iran fan Member

    Barcelona
    Iran
    Mar 30, 2022
    but then I have to buy both tickets. Since I am going alone, I cant do that, because I dont need the extra ticket.
    But as I understand, you are telling me that I Can use my real name on all applications, but I should use different passport Numbers, and whatever account is selected, I change that passport number to the real number, before buying the ticket
     
  2. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    Is it better to apply for 1 game per account or all the games I want to attend through all the accounts? Knowing that I apply as a fan of the team with poor travelling fans
     
  3. herewegoagain

    herewegoagain Member

    Jun 12, 2018
    Well, isn't it better to ask for 2 cat3 (for just one match, right?), increase your chances of getting tickets and give/trade one away rather than having to pay for 1 cat1/cat2 in fcfs? By making up your info, you can create as many applications as you want, and therefore you have a chance of getting even cheap cat3s.

    If you use your real name in all of them, you risk getting filtered out. Idk how risky it is, though. Anyway, best of luck, brother!
     
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  4. brandeau

    brandeau Member

    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Canada
    Apr 22, 2022
    Vancouver
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I would apply for all games throughout all the accounts. Then for any accounts that won tickets, you can select which one to go for (you do have to take all of the tix that are allocated to you in an acct, or take none at all)

    All games are high demand right now (unless you're applying via your country's football association) so chances of an account getting anything in the lottery is very low
     
  5. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    I'm only applying for 2 more games as I already have a TST3. Thanks buddy and see you on gameday 3 :mad::D
     
  6. skwasha

    skwasha Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 1, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Are you quite certain about them using a different system? I ask because I recently put in an app for the CL Finale. The interface, steps, etc. were eerily similar to the FIFA setup. I was surprised by how much I felt like I was just applying for more WC tix.
     
  7. Dave123007

    Dave123007 Member

    Juventus
    Portugal
    Aug 10, 2019
    Same name and birthday, high risk!
     
  8. skwasha

    skwasha Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 1, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    To all those fretting about using the same passport no. or having to change it or whatever - Don't sweat it.

    Let me explain why along with some anecdotal evidence:
    1. People's passports will expire between when they make the application and when they arrive in Doha (or maybe they don't have one yet). FIFA *have* to accommodate this - and they have. My passport recently expired. So the number I used during the first FCFS phase (to successfully buy tickets with) has since changed. I've already logged into the Ticket portal and updated it with NO ISSUE.
    2. Guest passport numbers are even more flexible. I have, for this WC and several before used dummy numbers for my mates when buying tickets. To be safe, I update them to the real numbers later once we've purchased the tickets. But for the application it has NEVER made a difference or mattered.
    3. Others have suggested that FIFA could easily institute automated checks to block the "cheaters".
      • a) Those people are giving FAR more credit to the operators at FIFA than they deserve. That process is outsourced to some third party that has a vested interest in spending as few development dollars as necessary to collect their payment from FIFA. They don't want to be developing and deploying some new process that might break what's been working (debatable) for the last X years. Not only that, but FIFA is not a startup. They are huge and move at glacial speed with lots of bureaucracy. I work in the tech industry. I've dealt with behemoth orgs like FIFA. If you believe they are nimble enough to make the sorts of changes suggested in short order... well... I've got a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.
      • b) Actually implementing such a system is more complex than those people think as well. Limiting by email works because you verify your email address... So, they know it's not bogus and also unique. Sure, you can use name+1, name+2, etc. to put in more apps, but each of those is a unique, validated email address. Your passport number on the other hand is NOT validated. So, there's no way for them to know if anyone is inputting a typo, expiration times not matching, etc. Without validating your passport number it makes zero sense to try and limit access by it.
    Now, could all of this change? Sure. But realistically it won't happen for this WC.
     
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  9. Anoo

    Anoo Member

    Liverpool FC
    Brazil
    Mar 30, 2022
    I've recently contacted FIFA and asked them if my application would be effected if my passport expires within 6 months of entry into Qatar. For instance, if I enter Qatar say Nov 26 2022 and my passport expires in May 10 2023. They told me no issues as long as your passport is valid after March 2023.
     
  10. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    So you can make a dummy account with the same name for "main applicant" much like your main account, just different email, address, and passport number? Will you be able to change your birthday afterwards as well if the dummy account is the one that received tickets?

    @skwasha?
     
  11. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    You can't change your birthday
     
  12. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    Thank you. Is it worth the risk then? FCFS seems the way to go after this phase?

    1-FIFA can cross reference it with other names/birthdays and void applications.

    2- If you get the tickets on that account, how do you get them printed if they ask for ID for knockout rounds?

    3- What if they check at the stadium for matching ID?

    Again, I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but it's my first time putting in a ticket application for a FIFA event.
     
  13. Ryan Peraino

    Ryan Peraino New Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Apr 26, 2022

    It sounds like yes. I emailed the FAQ about that place and this was there response:

    Thank you for your email,

    Kindly note that there will be a free parking available at the property.

    In regards to transportation, no official information has been released yet, please contact us closer to the event when we will have more details available.

    Kind regards,
    Evgeniya Kondratyeva
    Sales Team
    Qatar Accommodation Agency[​IMG]
     
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  14. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    This is my first experience too but from what I understand (and I hope I'm not talking crap) the only thing that can be double checked are the passport numbers since they're the only "unique" data about a person.

    I also read somewhere over here and on the ticketing platform that the tickets will be e-tickets and not printable

    I don't think they'll check anything at the stadium, there's just too many people and too many games to do that. They're more interested in our money.
     
  15. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    Highly valuable info, thank you!!! I'm thinking of renting a car on gamedays
     
  16. Ryan Peraino

    Ryan Peraino New Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Apr 26, 2022
    Hello, I'm trying to book accommodations with my friend. His passport expires on June 6th, 2022 and therefore it won't let me proceed past the Guest information page. He has currently expedited his passport but I'm worried that the place we want will book up. Is there any solution for me besides waiting until he gets his new passport?
    Can I book the place on my own and add his information later after he receives his passport?
     
  17. Medmehdii

    Medmehdii Member

    Real Madrid
    Morocco
    Mar 24, 2022
    I had the very same issue. Here's what they told me:

    Regarding the passport amendments, please be advised it will be possible to do in your personal account once this option is implemented on the website.

    Thank you.


    Best regards,

    Alexander Statsenko
    Sales Team
    Qatar Accommodation Age ncy 2022
     
  18. Chapulin2000

    Chapulin2000 New Member

    Real Madrid
    Mexico
    Apr 26, 2022
    Just to make sure I understand: suppose I apply for tickets for me and a guest, and we get them in the lotto and I buy them but in the end we are not able to go. I can sell and transfer only the guest ticket, because the main applicant’s ticket is non-transferable? Do I understand this correctly?
     
  19. mont0

    mont0 Member

    Chelsea
    Montenegro
    Mar 22, 2022
    I don't know did i have to, but i've paid under the name of the main applicant.

    I'm sure you can pay under someone elses name, but i don't know how smart is that. They can cancel the tickets if they notice?
     
  20. mont0

    mont0 Member

    Chelsea
    Montenegro
    Mar 22, 2022
    Great post, thanks.

    Why would they change it anyway?

    Let's back to basics = FIFA cares only about the money. They are doing pretty well and they are filthy rich organisation.

    Fans are paranoid and that is understandable, but we are giving them much more credit then they deserve.
     
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  21. skwasha

    skwasha Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jun 1, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    In answer to your questions:
    1) They theoretically could do this. However, I've never run into this issue. For reference, I've purchased tickets in the past 8 WCs now. In many cases using the same name, address, birthday, and passport. With the *only* differences in accounts being the emails.
    Again - *could* they do that checking? Yes. Do I believe they will or have the technical capabilities (currently) to do so? No,
    2) Assuming you have a valid Hayya I don't see why you'd be concerned about ID. They have never once checked my name against the ticket. And certainly not matching tckets to FanID/Hayya. It just takes too much time when you're trying to shove 70K people through the lines as quickly as possible,
    3) Frankly, I'd be more concerned with the group stage matches than the later rounds. Since those are generally more lightly attended and leisurely, the staff have more time to assert themselves. Also, by the time the knockout rounds roll around, the staff are more experienced. They know what to look for and they're more interested in getting people processed quickly.
     
  22. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I the only one that feels like we’re starting from post 0 every single day on this forum? The same questions over and over… can’t wait for the FCFS stage to start
     
  23. whiskerxx

    whiskerxx Member+

    May 30, 2006
    That depends on where your starting point is.
    The clues are often there when someone is listed as "new"
     
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  24. mazinio

    mazinio Member+

    Apr 16, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Hotdogs were ok
     
  25. Timanfaya

    Timanfaya Member+

    May 31, 2005
    Southampton
    Transfer is mainly for getting tickets to guests/friends. The "resale" platform will be for ditching unwanted tickets. (Search the thread for info.)
     
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