Pre-Match, PBP, Post-Match - Chicago Fire Host Union Omaha USOC Tuesday, April 19 7PM @ SF

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by willydonc, Apr 18, 2022.

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Likely Outcomes

Poll closed Apr 20, 2022.
  1. Fire Advance!

    10 vote(s)
    71.4%
  2. Fire Fail To Advance!

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Bridgeview Raccoons Start Turf War With Lakefront Raccoons At SF West Concourse

    8 vote(s)
    57.1%
  4. Something Really Stupid Happens Like A Scoreless Tie

    10 vote(s)
    71.4%
  5. Rubber Dicks Crawl Out Of Lake Onto Pitch, Match Abandoned

    7 vote(s)
    50.0%
  6. Mansueto Buys Pregame Malört Shots To Save The Post Match Rush

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
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  1. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wow. Two fine goals by Omaha...two pk (generic goals) by Fire though deserved fouls awarded them. I agree with others here that frankly we looked more dangerous (to Omaha) in the first half. Our subs did not do much. Espinoza took a step backward today as far as I am concerned and most of our youth looked like...well...youth nowhere near ready to contribute to even the bench. Guti seemed to show better especially early. Aaaaand...Kascper missed his pk....le sigh.
     
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  2. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    lots of fingers to be pointed but this roster is just not good beyond the top handful

    impressive that we’ve only dropped one game so far, but we need some talent and depth bad
     
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  3. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    yeah, I thought Espinoza played better than he had before against LA but tonight he was awful
     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Joe should be embarrassed, unfortunately.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We almost literally have no one else.
    Duran? No
    Offor? No
    Who else?

    I think Przbylko will be okay with a bit of service.
    I am more worried about our lack of attacking options out of the midfield.
     
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  6. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Unacceptable!
     
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  7. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, there's a deathwatch thread already, isn't there? :ROFLMAO:

    The hope is he learns from this - it is tough as a fan to see the team hype up the 'we want the cup talk' and then see him treat this as an exhibition for the duration of full time, especially after the team lost their considerable bite from the first half. We'll see, I guess.
     
  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I thought about looking it up before I posted...

    Exactly.
     
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  9. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I wish we would take the open cup at least half seriously.
     
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I really liked the US Open Cup back in the day.
     
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  11. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I remember when the Fire would win Open Cups. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
     
  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Joe should be embarrassed, unfortunately.
     
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  13. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  14. wolvesfirehope

    Chicago Fire, Detroit City FC, Swansea City, Chicago Red Stars, Edgewater Castle
    United States
    Apr 6, 2018
    Oh, we don't have anyone currently that I think would do it, but his play screams "he needs a change of location." From how good he was in Philly to how unnoticeable he is now seems to be a large difference. Sometimes a player just doesn't gel with their surroundings.
     
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  15. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I remember when the Fire traded for Joel Lindpere and there were some people that said it was a "great trade", "already knew the league", "will provide plenty of offense for the Fire". Well even though he was good in New Jersey didn't translate here. Seems like this is just another one of those situations.
     
  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, and his surroundings are rather lacking.

    We have no attacking options, other than Shaqiri.

    We have no wing play.
    Ivanov is not good.
    Herbers is a statue.
    Brian G is not much yet.

    We need two players at minimum of the level of Frankowski, Luka, Djordie, Katai, Medran, Aliseda, etc. for this team to have a chance.
    Preferably, better than any of them, but at least their level.

    Maybe Torres will be one of those players when he arrives next month.
     
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  17. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Brutal. Ezra's first major misstep and, boy, it was a doozy.
     
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  18. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It's something I've noticed in Fire 2 games and mentioned a few times, but the big thing about Duran is that he gets frustrated way too easily. The moment he misses a shot, he's done for the day. He hasn't hit a rhythm yet and he's not gonna find one if he doesn't calm down. I still believe in him, but he needs a mentor or something.
     
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  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I hope you still believe in him.
    He is barely 18 and has a handful of professional matches.

    He is still extremely raw.
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    kind of an Inverse Djordje.
     
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  21. For those firing on Ezra, consider the possibility (likelihood) that this lineup was picked by higher-ups? Some rotation is expected and guys like Gimenez, Herbers, Shaqiri, & Teràn weren't fit. But Pineda, Omsberg, & Sekilic didn't even make the bench. Four players made their professional first team debuts. Joe shouldn't be involved in player selection, but there should be an explanation to supporters from senior sporting management because the team didn't put it's best foot forward last night.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My comment was intended as a joke. I was not "firing" on Ezra, nor do I think "firing" Ezra would be prudent at this point.

    I highly doubt the line-up was "picked by higher-ups," unless you mean the decision to have a paper thin team, with almost no attacking options (other than Shaqiri, Ivanov and Kascper) means that Ezra had little choice to pick "four players [who] made their professional first team debuts" as part of the team, as we have almost nobody else at this point.

    if that was your point, I agree, but I think you were being more literal than that.
     
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  23. Jake Roberts

    Jake Roberts Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 7, 2018
    Because the open cup isn't really that important. If it was, the starters would've been out there. That or they overestimate fire II (who have been struggling)
     
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  24. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #49 splunge63, Apr 20, 2022
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2022
    They took Omaha way too lightly and it backfired, bigly. Yeah, league games are more important. Highly doubt the lineup was dictated by others (IBIWISI). As to an explanation, +infinity. Not holding my breath.
     
  25. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Not too many coaches would let the front office pick their starting lineup. We ain’t the Dallas Cowboys.
    2. My gripe, and what I’m seeing in other Fire circles, isn’t with the starting lineup choices, it’s with sticking with almost all of them until the 89th minute despite the fact that they fell flat after an unexpectedly dominant first half. Ezra was essentially playing for Extra Time from the minute Omaha drew even, instead using the next sub window to bring in the reinforcements in an attempt to wrap it up in regulation.
    3. While people are ‘firing on’ Ezra, no serious person is calling for his firing. Assuming you weren’t implying that but the word choice is a tad confusing. Ezra’s going to be a really good coach and if we’re lucky, he’ll be with us a long time.
    4. The most frustrating thing is he isn’t some coach from overseas with no context as to the importance of this tournament for us, he’s played it in himself and knows the team’s history of success in it. Would’ve been great if his decisions reflected that as game wore on.
     
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