Potential friendly opponents to prepare?

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  1. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Because he's the Robinson backup. He was playing Miles's role very well before he got injured and Miles stepped up and claimed it. He is well-suited to the high line.
     
  2. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I don't really see this stuff as a good match.
    Does South Korea play all that much like Iran? I don't think so.

    Does Denmark play like England? Maybe a little closer.

    I do think the Wales/Scotland match is pretty good because both teams seem to have the same approach: Defensive organization with a talisman or 2 that they hope to produce magic.

    With Iran, I feel like much of the AFC outsides of the really top end teams, actually does have a defense first, hyper organized approach, I'm not sure how Iran plays exactly, I just know that their approach is defensive organization, and to stone wall other teams and try to catch them w/the couple of brilliant attacking players they have. We want to look for teams that have legit attacking weapon or two, but are also absolutely brilliant at defending in an organized, team effort. Who is that? Denmark sounds organized and brilliant, but they definitely have better outfield players, probably the best teams that fit this style to me are Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia. Morocco drew Canada in qualifying so they might like us as a matchup maybe? We both are fast, athletic, and difficult to play with in the attack and solid in the back.

    For me, at the end of the day, I'd probably try to figure out a way to get:

    For Iran: Morocco, Iraq, Tunisia, or Egypt (Egypt might actually be the perfect fit along with Morocco).

    For England: We can't get teams that really fit what they do. They're fast, and athletic, lethal in the attack, well organized on defense. Lol, Canada sounds like a good bet since UEFA sounds like its closed in June. If not Canada (and I'm half joking anyway), best UEFA matches would strike me as your Denmark, maybe Spain, maybe Belgium, except Belgium's defense is too old, maybe Germany or Netherlands.

    For Wales: It's kind of a joke, but you're right, switching Scotland back and forth makes sense: just look for an organized squad with a couple of stars that can combine, and otherwise worker bees.

    The 4 ideal friendlies for me if I could do them would probably be:
    Egypt
    Morocco
    Spain or another Euro power that has more speed than them like Netherlands.
    Wales or Scotland whomever doesn't qualify in September.

    I'd probably try to set them up as:
    Egypt and Morocco in June

    Netherlands and Scotland/Wales in June

    Are both windows closed to UEFA due to Nations League or just June? I think it's just June right?

    Sounds like we already have Argentina though, and if we do, then I'd just add Egypt or Morocco for June, and then grab two Euro's for September.
     
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  3. nirwin

    nirwin Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Aug 20, 2007
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Looks like Uruguay is one of our June friendlies.
     
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  4. Daveeed

    Daveeed Member

    Mar 4, 2014
    Salvador
    Allowed to send B team to Nations League... we aren't allowed to do anything. We are just shmoes on the internet.

    I think geography and getting 2 games out of a trip is what federations consider most in planning friendlies. We could host in Hawaii and make travel easy for any east asian oceania team. If Mexico or Canada were there, too, you get more bang for your buck.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    UEFA plays Nations League in both, the June and September windows.
     
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  6. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This "high line" we "like to play"..... It will be interesting to see if our liking it survives the World Cup, or any encounter with a top team that is comfortable with a fast, direct, physical style.... It is also interesting that CCV is "Brooked" without even the chance to be called in to see directly what he may be suited for.

    I do not for a moment believe that our not using him is due to our manager's knowledge [as opposed to presumption] as to what he is capable of and what he is suited for. .... again, that is where the chance to be called in and to see directly what he may be suited for comes in.

    That said, I fully expect Gregg not to call in CCV. In fact, I expect Gregg to offer no look for a spot on the team to anyone who is not already in his approved list [unless a Young Ronaldo somewhere in the American Desert blooms]. I believe his announcement that the Nations Cup will be dedicated to readying the team for the World Cup tells us this.
    There is nothing wrong with that, and it is his call, but we must recognize there will be players who could be of genuine service in November who will never be given the opportunity to try for the team.
     
  7. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.espn.com.uy/futbol/mund...mexico-y-analiza-oferta-de-camerun-qatar-2022

    ESPN Uruguay is reporting it as well.

    Last friendly we had with Uruguay was I think 2018? 2019? Ended 1-1, but was overall a snoozefest.
     
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  8. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    Uruguay tends to phone it in for friendlies. Hopefully as a WC prep type game, they will put forth the effort. If we want to test our defense against some offensive talisman type players, it would be hard to do better than Suarez and Cavani, neither of which were at that last friendly.
     
  9. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Maryland
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is Argentina - if that's actually happening, though being drawn wit Mexico might put a wrench into things - a June or Sept friendly? I've seen both rumored, but it would set up nicely if Argentina and Uruguay are our two June friendlies and played in the USA.

    Even with no UEFA clubs being available, I'd still think about playing the September friendlies in or around Europe, maybe against African or western Asia opponents. That way you can use the Euro-based players and not have terrible travel on them. Plus I just think it would be easier to find opponents willing to play a game in that part of the world versus having them come to America.
     
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  10. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Good call by the Fed, IMO.
     
  11. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And maybe Cameroon, too!
     
  12. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kind of. He did have that role but Robinson has passed him. Richards can also play that role while adding passing out of the back. McKenzie and EPB are also in the hunt at the fast CB role. Since we have so many injuries I feel Long is just there to get reps in case two players get injuries and if everyone is healthy I don't see him being on the WC roster. I do think GB better think hard about a back to the Zimmerman role (Brooks, Miazga, CCV) instead of having three fast guys. Could also be a reason to use Scally or Cannon as an outside back because I think both can play emergency CB. 23 or 26 changes who makes the squad. 23 requires perhaps a few overall lesser but more versatile players while 26 means a few specialists can make it.
     
  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s a very good chance CCV gets a look this summer, but why do you think that Berhalter is actively trying to ignore him? If he doesn’t get called up can’t it just be simple enough that Berhalter doesn’t think he’s a good fit?
     
  14. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suarez in particular has bite in the attack. :D
     
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  15. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    I worry that he will just chew up and spit out our defense.
     
  16. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a complete waste of time the Nation's League opponents are going to be to prepare for the World Cup.

    An intrasquad scrimmage would be more effective.

    But CONCACAF is gonna CONCACAF...
     
  17. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    So Europe is out. That makes the Argentina and Uruguay rumors pretty positive, the only better teams available would be Brazil, or Ecuador or Colombia or maybe Peru, and all things considered, I think Argentina and Uruguay are probably better matches for what we might face vs England and Wales, then the other sides.
     
  18. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Argentina also has the “Finalissima” match against Italy in London in June. That is the new super cup like match organised between Uefa and Conmebol. Not sure how that fits into the European nations league schedule.
     
  19. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uruguay twice?

     
  20. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that bums me out a little. good quality, but wouldnt a different, slightly lesser opponent offer more opportunity to learn, test, evaluate, etc?

    and i wonder if we try to make one a road match.
     
  21. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    We'll have plenty of low quality games in Nations League. We need to get our top team ready to play against top competition as much as possible.

    I would like to see a game or two on the road, so I hope one of the Uruguay games is away. But, I would not be surprised if we can get a better selection of opponents if we play at home where they can come get a big payday in the US and get some experience away themselves. It might be what we have to offer to entice top teams to schedule a game with us.
     
  22. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    travelling on either side of the nl matches would be too much. is it better to play those first 3 at home then sneak in a road match, or start on the road and finish with 3.

    after that we will have 2 road friendlies (euro, mid east, asia?) and thats it.
     
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  23. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Berhalter were to think he is not a good fit, after actually forwarding him a serious look [say, at Nation's Cup], that is one thing. But, otherwise, to prejudge the issue without ever giving him the chance to see how he works directly on the field, that is another thing.
    Clearly, I think CCV has played well enough through the entirety of this season, in the SPL, to warrant such a look. I just am not sure Gregg will bother with such a look.
     
  24. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s a probably a much better player today, but CCV has been in a camp under Berhalter. But we also shouldn’t prejudge Berhalter’s decision making until we actually see what his decision is.

    I think he should get a look, but if Berhalter doesn’t call him up I’m not going to assume he’s purposely ignoring him. And if Berhalter doesn’t call him up he’ll have made an evaluation off watching more film than anyone here. He’s not purposely going to leave off guys who he thinks will help. I’d also much rather Brooks or EPB as the 4th center back over CCV.

    CCV could have also played in the Gold Cup last year and gotten himself on the radar. For his own reasons he decided not to (and in the end he ended up not moving till right before the transfer window).
     
  25. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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