Pre-match: 2022 FIFA World Cup Draw - April 1, 2022 - 12 PM EDT

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  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    #1 schrutebuck, Mar 30, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2022
    The United States has qualified for the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar, returning to the tournament for the first time since 2014. The World Cup group draw is this Friday, April 1, at 12 PM EDT with the US having earned a spot in Pot 2. US TV coverage will be provided by Peacock, Telemundo, and Universo, but my expectation is that free streams will be easily accessible pretty much everywhere.

    It’s worth noting that the US cannot draw either Canada or the winner of the Costa Rica / New Zealand playoff from Pot 4.

    Pot 1: Qatar, Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, England, France, Portugal, Spain

    Pot 2: USA, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Mexico, Netherlands, Switzerland, Uruguay

    Pot 3: Iran, Japan, Morocco, Poland, Serbia, Senegal, South Korea, Tunisia

    Pot 4: Cameroon, Canada, Ecuador, Ghana, Saudi Arabia, Wales/Scotland/Ukraine, Peru/Australia/UAE, Costa Rica/NZ
     
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  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Qatar, Tunisia, New Zealand too much to ask for?
     
  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pot 1: Qatar, Brazil, Belgium, France, Argentina, England, Spain, Portugal

    Pot 2: USA, Mexico, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Uruguay, Croatia

    Pot 3: Senegal, Iran, Japan, Morocco, Serbia, Poland, South Korea, Tunisia

    Pot 4: Canada, Cameroon, Ecuador, Saudi Arabia, Ghana, CRC/NZL winner, SCO/WAL/UKR winner, AUS/UAE/Peru winner
     
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  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @dark knight schrutebuck beat me to it, can you delete my thread?
     
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kiwis won't happen because they're playing a CONCACAF team, but I'll settle for The Saudis
     
  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pot 1: Obviously you want Qatar, outside of that I'd want Belgium or Portugal and then England or Spain.

    Pot 3: Tunisia appears to be the weakest team here, but they can park a bus pretty well, I'd be pretty worried about breaking them down. Truthfully I'm pretty neutral about this group

    Pot 4:Canada and the CRC/NZL winner won't happen, so that leaves 6 options. Cameroon or The Saudis are probably who you want most (plus Australia or The UAE if they get by Peru). I know our history with Ghana, but I wouldn't mind them either
     
  7. DIMITAR BERBATOV!

    Aug 2, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are no easy groups at the WC, but I suppose we don't want Brazil or France as our pot 1 team. I actually think England might be the next scariest team. Not completely sold on this edition of Argentina or Spain, though both nations typically have strong talent. Belgium and Portugal strike me as Jekkyl-and-Hyde nations that could either flop hard or crush people. So I guess put me down for Qatar, Spain, Belgium, or Argentina.

    I haven't really watched the pot 3 teams. All seem beatable, but tough.

    Pot 4...can we actually draw Canada? I wouldn't really want to face them again. For the sake of variety, I'd like to see something different. Have to feel we'd be solid favorites over all these teams.
     
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  8. DIMITAR BERBATOV!

    Aug 2, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Copying my post from the other thread:

    There are no easy groups at the WC, but I suppose we don't want Brazil or France as our pot 1 team. I actually think England might be the next scariest team. Not completely sold on this edition of Argentina or Spain, though both nations typically have strong talent. Belgium and Portugal strike me as Jekkyl-and-Hyde nations that could either flop hard or crush people. So I guess put me down for Qatar, Spain, Belgium, or Argentina.

    I haven't really watched the pot 3 teams. All seem beatable, but tough.

    Pot 4...have to feel we'd be solid favorites over all these teams.
     
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  9. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  10. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    #10 schrutebuck, Mar 30, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2022
    Several comments on various aspects of the draw and the World Cup schedule:

    1. The first day of the World Cup, November 21, 2022, is actually a Monday, which is unusual because the tournament usually starts on Friday. I suspect a compromise due to the asinine Qatar selection and European club concerns.

    2. The scheduling for the Group Stage itself is compressed as national teams will have 3 matches in an 8 day period. Likely another compromise from the Qatar selection and club concerns, and it's one that will result in 7.5 months of discussions about player rotation.

    3. Pot 1, my view would be to dodge France and Brazil at all costs. Pot 3, I would want to avoid Serbia, Poland, and Senegal. Pot 4, I want to avoid Wales/Scotland/Ukraine and Ghana - with a secondary reason being that I'm tired of the US playing Ghana.

    4. Ideally, I'd like the US to meet at least one new national team in group play in a World Cup, unlike in 2014 when all 4 matches were rematches. We can save any rematches for later in the tournament.
     
  11. Datderfranny

    Datderfranny Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Detroit, MI
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For sure you want Qatar, but I'm also scared of the prospect of Qatar home-cooking, because we all know how tough the home whistle is at the WC. I feel like Qatar favoritism at the Cup could put South Korea 2002 to shame. It is possible however that the pot 3 and 4 teams drawn with Qatar get the brunt of the bad, figuring the best chance for Qatar to get through is 2nd place in the group, with the pot 2 team becoming the de facto #1.

    What i think I would be most upset with is drawing potentially Wales out of pot 4. That would be just our luck as we tend to get some tough groups for the WC, (save maybe 2010 which was pretty favorable.)

    End of the day though, we just have to beat these teams if we want respect.
     
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  12. Datderfranny

    Datderfranny Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Detroit, MI
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I noticed this about the scheduling as well. 4 matches a day for the group games, which previously was only a thing on the first Sunday (or possibly saturday) of the prior 32 team world cups. So the groups cycle through every 4 days, 3 matches in 8 days for each squad as you said.

    I think this could bode well for us, given the familiarity with how concacaf qualifying was abbreviated as well.
     
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  13. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    jesus, what is this scheduling?!? this is the sort of thing i dont even think about until qualifying is over and its in two days.

    i am not mentally prepared at all...
     
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  14. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There has to be 1 European team in each group right? So there's 3/8 chance that we don't get one out pot A, which would force either Poland, Serbia, or the playoff winner into ours
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels like if it’s at the right time of day, a Thanksgiving opening game could do huge TV ratings.
     
  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It continues to be a ridiculous decision that this World Cup is being played in Qatar.
     
  17. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am going to point out that since 2002 the prior World Cup winner has always gone out in the group stage, except Brazil in 2006.

    That said, i still don't want France.

    Also, I'm willing to lay money that Qatar gets Germany, or maybe Netherlands. Heated balls and all that.
     
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  18. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously hot take here, but I don't think there's a team in the world we can't at least draw with, if we have relative good health. I'm not scared of anyone.
    My big caveat is they have to score, and that's definitely up in the air, both tactically and personnel wise. They have to sort out the set piece situation, there's no reason they can't make that their bread and butter.

    I do think England is the last team I want to see in my group, as I think they are particularly strong. Having said that, they seem the most likely to step on their own collective dicks.
     
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  19. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    This should be on Fox Sports too, since they have the FIFA deal in English.
     
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  20. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Here is what I want:

    Qatar, USA, Tunisia, Wales/Scotland/Ukraine winner.

    Here is what I don't want:

    France, USA, Senegal, Ecuador.
     
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  21. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The new seeding/pot system really works to our advantage, getting into pot 2. I remember when all CONCACAF teams would get lumped in to the same pot as AFC teams, which essentially guaranteed that we'd play a pot 1 superpower + a good European or South American squad. The new format makes it very difficult for there to be a true group of death.

    I'm not optimistic that we're a round of 16-quality squad based on our youth and inconsistency, but these pots make me feel like we'll have a solid chance of advancing no matter the draw. All of the pot 3 and pot 4 teams feel beatable to me if we play well.

    No (thankfully). Aside from UEFA, FIFA only allows one team per confederation for each group.
     
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  22. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is. It'll be on FS1 on Friday, with the pre-draw show at 11:30AM ET
     
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  23. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    On TUDN, the pre-draw show starts at 7 a m. PDT. So 2 hours versus 30 minutes in English.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I'd avoid North African teams just because of the support. Otherwise, avoid the dribbling teams because our CB pair + DM + GK square is our weak spot.
     
  25. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *The jazz standard "A Night in Tunisia" starts playing*.
     
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