2022 FIFA WC Qualifying - Mexico vs United States; March 24, 2022

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  1. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
  2. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Did you guys forget about the summer of 2015?
     
  3. Handsome Solo

    Handsome Solo Member+

    Mar 24, 2011
    Las Vegas
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Para el próximo partido contra los catrachos, quiero ver al Factor Lainez como 10 y a *ver* si se atreve el Tata a jugar un poco más vertical
     
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  4. Juturna67

    Juturna67 Member+

    Chelsea
    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2011
    Whittier, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He will get hacked by Honduras
     
  5. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  6. Plutarco Elias Calles

    Atletico San Pancho
    Mexico
    Sep 4, 2021
    On the bright side they defended set pieces well. Montes is great.

    Also Sanchez and Arteaga will get better as they play more often. This is the 2nd time Sanchez makes Pulisic his bitch
     
  7. Viva RoCkism!

    Viva RoCkism! Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Mexico City
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No what happened? are we in the WC?
     
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  8. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Some decent big 4 Euro club sign Montes and Sanchez pleaseeeeee :cry:
     
  9. Handsome Solo

    Handsome Solo Member+

    Mar 24, 2011
    Las Vegas
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mexico’s gonna get hacked regardless, my brother in Christ
     
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  10. LEGENDARY PAPI CHULO

    Oct 11, 2021
    Negatives:
    - late substitutions
    -Vega should have gone in at min 60 or earlier
    -lack of ideas, no paredes, no surprises
    - Charly rodriguez did not link midfield and attack

    But some positives:
    + sanchez and arteaga were very fast, they showed great athleticism to go up and down, and were confident to attack
    +back four average age was ~24. Martino trusted the young guys for an important game and they delivered.

    I still think Vega should be a starter. And play as a #10. He can connect and shoot from outside the box.
     
  11. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
  12. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I don’t think the team lacked heart or effort at all. That was the hardest they’ve played in a long while. They lacked cohesion and didn’t seem to have much idea what Tata’s tactics were. It seemed like the plan was to send long balls to Lozano on the counter. Why start Charly and Tecate if that’s the case, though? Both require time and touches on the ball to be effective and slow the game down.

    Also, why not have Herrera stay back more and help Edson out? He’s played that role well at Atletico. Edson was lucky not to get red carded.

    I thought our CBs were really impressive and Sanchez was nearly flawless in that second half. Like a prime Efrain Juarez.
     
  13. erdons

    erdons Member

    May 1, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    Dang crazy how quick Efrain Juarez came and went, he’s only 34, you would think he could still be playing. Didn’t even make it to the 2014 WC.
     
  14. SGuerrilla

    SGuerrilla Member+

    Sep 8, 2014
    en la cueva
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    When's the last time we had a proper #10? Gio? He was more of a second striker I think.
     
  15. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Cuauhtémoc
     
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  16. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    #416 LAFEFUT, Mar 25, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2022
    Oh boy.

    Whether he did or didn’t, there is no doubt that his popularity amongst certain fans exceeds his actual playing ability. We have 3 World Cup cycles of his career data to conclude or objectively argue si se hizo, o no, algo especial en su época. One could argue that Mexico was going to be left out of the 2014 WC due to his clear missed sitters and penalty fail.

    I have mentioned it here before, to me he is an ok average player who could be called up due to the lack of ANY 9s in general and also at the tail end of his career. However, due to the poor management of Mexican fútbol which includes Mexican sports media, palancas, rival media companies, etcétera, they project this false narrative and/or image of what a player is or isn’t. A prime example is (or was) the media campaign with his name in the last year or so. The Mexican media instead of talking about the root issues plaguing Mexican fut, which includes corruption, certain player promotion, talking about getting young Mexican players to debut (in their country in Liga MX) or exported or something, the Mexican se la pasaron (or still a little bit) promoting el “regreso” de Javier Hernandez. That the issues plaguing the Mexican National fútbol team would be solved if “Tata”(even though he is just a figure head) would just call him up: that all of the Mexican National fútbol teams problems would be resolved if “petty differences” were just put aside and that the goals would just start pouring in. That is one many issues, one of the biggest, that just perpetuates the stank of Mexican fútbol especially in the last 10 years.
     
  17. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Chucky's shots give me Salcido flashbacks
     
  18. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Or maybe they had huge release early on clauses (I doubt it, but well...). Monterrey kept Vasco Aguirre for long just because of that.
     
  19. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Arteaga was not great but I thought he got better as the game went on. That being said, dude would get pissed and not get back after he lost a ball and it almost cost us. It seemed like his teammates avoided passing him the ball in the second half.
     
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  20. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    It's funny that you criticize the Mexican media for what they say when your arguments are as terrible or even worse than the shit they normally do. Just like this god awful analysis of Chicharito.
     
  21. erdons

    erdons Member

    May 1, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    Cot dam you wrote an entire essay and said absolutely nothing,
     
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  22. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    By that logic put Tata Martino getting into the Quarterfinals with Paraguay. 2015 was the reality and because he skipped World Cup qualifying that was his only time with CONCACAF. And even in club he had the same as people forget his record with America when he went out in the 1st stage losing 1-0 against Alajuelense in Estadio Azteca and only tying against Toronto FC in Azteca to also go out. And of course there is the last CONCACAF tournament when he also went out and it costed him his job. There really is nothing to go that Herrera wouldn't have the same issues as Martino of failing to break the bunker and being clueless about the teams they face.
     
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  23. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    Always a fun experience to be at Azteca. The Fan ID was a disaster as expected, and the team continued with the current lack of cohesion in the midfield and dearth of finishing quality.

    As many of you have pointed out this team has no offensive midfield presence. The US just packed the midfield and was happy to give up the wings and disrupt play. Arteaga and Sanchez are an improvement offensively but they lost the ball several times which lead to dangerous plays. Tata coaching not to lose making only late, like for like subs. There was space for what Lainez can bring in this game.

    On the experience, it was to be expected that the Fan ID was going to lead to entry delays. We treated it like an international flight trip and just got there really early. At kick-off there were still hundreds if not thousands of people trying to make their way in. Once inside they are treated to a frustrating game and end up angry. One thing is for sure: it is absolutely true that Azteca ya no pesa. They’ve made it into a Jerry World style experience where it’s more important that the beer keep flowing than the heat be put on the visiting team.
     
  24. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Athleticism is all México needs and it starts with proper weight, plyometric, and agility training at a young age. Can someone please invest into this within Mexico. The two most athletic players did perfectly fine last night.
     
  25. SkiptoMyLou

    SkiptoMyLou Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    I was gonna say a joke about choking against the Nads, but I'll be respectful...

    Watch the team play lights out without him, though.
     

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