Seleção General Discussion, 2022 [R]

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  1. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #126 Ombak, Mar 20, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2022
    Raphinha missed Leeds' match yesterday after testing positive for COVID.

    it's expected that he'll be cut from the national team for this window and a replacement named, but so far it hasn't been officially announced.

    Because of the current hype in Brazil, a lot of people think this might be a chance for Pedro or Raphael Veiga. I think Gabigol might be a likelier call-up.

    EDIT: Having said that, the immediate replacement would be Éverton Ribeiro, especially since we're likely to run a 4-1-4-1 or 4-4-2. Considering he's been playing on the left and pundits have been criticizing his call-up for a while the reaction if Tite went with ER7 would be something to watch...
     
  2. Ombak

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  3. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Time is flying by. For those posters who like me reside in the U.S., spring is now here, and once April has arrived, cold weather will gradually fade, with a few gasps and perhaps even some snowfall.... and that's it.

    And this Thursday, and then Tuesday next week, Brazil will finish yet another lengthy World Cup qualifying tournament. Chile at home and Bolivia in Bolivia.

    (Although there's the pending game vs. Argentina, which should in my view just be merged into the supposed FIFA exhibition match that is supposed to take place in June; it'll save time and money and spare both delegations from a lot of logistical demands given it'll be summertime in the northern hemisphere, and with UEFA seasons winding down, it'll be a good time for a selective approach to friendlies so Tite can fine-tune the team further.)

    If it were any other year, we'd be looking at the World Cup starting in 3 months or so, but this tournament just *had* to go to a country with little soccer tradition AND whose mid-year summer is so prohibitively hot the entire soccer world had to adjust to a November-December World Cup...

    Concerning Neymar's fate, if PSG lets him go, he has two options. Either he gets his act together and shines at Qatar (even if the Hexa remains elusive), or he doesn't. Whoever signs him up next, if PSG does release him, may largely depend on what he does - and doesn't do - at the World Cup.
     
  4. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    Éderson has been cut due to an intestinal issue, Éverson has been called up in his place.
    It looks like there won't be a call-up to replace Raphinha at this point, since we've already seen the other replacements with no additional announcement.
     
  5. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Line-up from today's training has Neymar as center-forward (false 9):
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Ombak

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    Brazil
  7. joudre

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    Jan 3, 2016
    Neymar didn’t get back to play defense smh you need to look at it again
     
  8. brasileiragem

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    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
    Not sure I understood what you said...
     
  9. brasileiragem

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    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
    Looks great! Tite doing the right tests as always.
     
  10. brasileiragem

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    Real Madrid
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    May 21, 2018


    Also very clear from this link that Tite believes that the wingers should be defending hence Neymar being used as a false 9 makes sense against Chile
     
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  11. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    They do get back to defend in big games at certain points during the game. Mostly they go back to fill space and compose shape.
     
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  12. Ombak

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  13. brasileiragem

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    Real Madrid
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    May 21, 2018
  14. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    The man, the myth, the legend, getting a picture taken with his biggest fan.
    [​IMG]
    I mean of course, the legend Casimiro and his fan, Neymar.
     
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  15. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    A lot of good stuff to read following the Chile match. Here's one from ge:

    https://ge.globo.com/blogs/painel-t...nejou-a-selecao-sem-um-camisa-9-de-area.ghtml

    And here's the first training ahead of the Bolivia match:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/seleca...spensao-bolivia-eliminatorias-desfalque.ghtml

    Martinelli seems to be making a good impression, not just based on the goal mentioned in the article above. He may give Rodrygo a run for that 7th spot.

    We'll see tomorrow, with a more complete training session, if Tite is likely to keep the formation, with Martinelli/Rodrygo, Richarlison, Antony up top or if he goes with something different like a Paquetá + Coutinho midfield in front of Casemiro and Fred.
     
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  16. Ombak

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  17. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Weverton is out, injured in training today. Santos has already been called in to replace him.
     
  18. brasileiragem

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    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
  19. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I read today Brazil's delegation will arrive in La Paz three hours before gametime and will rent 16 to 18 oxygen tanks. I don't recall whether Tite did this in 2018 WCQ or whether any previous manager since the Penta did this.

    I do know that Brazil hasn't won a WCQ match in Bolivia since 1986 (a 0-2 win), and that the best we've done since are draws: 1-1 for 2006 and 0-0 for 2018.

    Other teams - Ecuador and Chile for example - defeated Bolivia in La Paz in 2022 WCQ. Technically, if they can do it, so can Brazil.

    I wonder how this oxygen tank thing will play out.

    I won't, by the way, write a match thread - I'll probably resume that for summertime matches and of course, for the World Cup itself.
     
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  20. pipinogol

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    May 20, 2016
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    Argentina NT and clubs usually do all of this with mixed results.

    Last time however the NT spent the previous night in La Paz and won so I guess it doesn't matter.


    The only really effective preparation would be to spend a month or so training in altitude but that is obviously impossible in modern times.
     
  21. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    In fact, our best result in Bolivia since that win CB mentioned was in the 1997 Copa América final in hosted in Bolivia. In that case though, Brazil played all their games before the final in Santa Cruz, which is only 1200m above sea level, so the tournament time together was the factor, not the altitude prep specifically.
     
  22. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks like celito has taken up the banner already.

    I'm optimistic about this match, but also know that you can't really expect much out of a match in La Paz. Hoping for the best with early goals to cement the win and prevent us having to exert too much energy.
     
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  23. Century's Best

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    In addition to that 7-0 over Peru in the semifinals, what stands out for me in that tournament is Zagallo screaming at the camera. He definitely had a lot to vent given how criticized he'd been by the sports press.

    Incidentally, that title conquest marked the first of only two times in CONMEBOL history that a team was Copa América and World Cup champion at the same time. That time, the world championship was won before the continental title.... it was reversed in 2002-2004.
     
  24. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Pot A is defined for the WC draw:

    Qatar, Brazil, Belgium, France, Argentina, England, Spain, Portugal

    Pot B currently has:

    Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland, Croatia, Uruguay

     
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  25. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think after the CONCACAF matches tomorrow I'll open a World Cup draw thread.

    Qualifying is basically over for Brazil though the match vs Argentina will still be held as a friendly/qualifier combination.

    3 teams will be TBD for World Cup after tomorrow - the intercontinental playoffs and the European playoff in Ukraine's bracket.

    Draw will be held on April 1st at 1pm Brazilian time.
     
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