Luca Before You Leap: de la Torre at Celta Vigo

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Jul 25, 2013.

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What should we rename the Luca de la Torre thread?

  1. Luca’s Labour’s Lost? de la Torre at Celta Vigo

    10 vote(s)
    10.9%
  2. My name is Luca, I live in the Second Team: De La Torre at Celta Vigo

    17 vote(s)
    18.5%
  3. Luca's Labour (not) Lost: Luca de la Torre at Celta Vigo

    14 vote(s)
    15.2%
  4. Luca Before you Leap: Luca de la Torre at Celta Vigo

    51 vote(s)
    55.4%
  1. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I like him but its not amazing. Too many balls are too far from his feet. In higher league those balls are lost.
     
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  2. el floppo

    el floppo Member

    NY RB
    United States
    Dec 7, 2021
    NYC LES Evil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what I like is that he's still youngish (23) and in a spot where he CAN try those things... even if I agree that video was pretty up and down (too many loose touches, even slight, in the wrong places).

    I like what he brings relative to most other US players- similar to Musah with the desire and ability to turn and attack space with the ball instead of only off the pass. but to be next level he definitely needs to tighten up the touches and when/where he uses them...but getting to play in Holland seems like a good spot to develop those skills.
     
  3. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
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  4. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    LDLT is the new shiny toy, so invariably his weaknesses are glossed over for a variety of reasons. He is better than what we have, told you our coach was stupid, etc, etc, etc. He is a nice option to have. He brings a different look, but he has his issues, and the higher up he goes the more it will show. If he could just add a little more production his stock, and vale would jump significantly.
     
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  5. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I think he's somewhat limited physically, which is why his decision making is so good. He doesn't have the wheels to get away from defenders so he has to think quicker.

    He's a good attacking midfielder player decently well in a good league. He's Benny Feilhaber. A nice piece to have but not one to build around.
     
  6. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Gotta love the double standard from moderators.

    I get BANNED from Pepi thread for commenting how a WCQ window could make Pepi overly tired, overly distracted for his duties with Augsburg (so a quick comment WCQ post but the post totally relating totally relevant to his play with Augsburg)

    Yet I feel certain all the video + commentary here on Luca's recent USMNT work will not get posters banned.
     
  7. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Yeah, some
    Moderators here are a tad overzealous.

    Just make sure your commentary and ideologies overlap and you will be untouchable.
     
  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Contract extension:

     
  9. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just thinking out loud.....

    His contract, I recently saw on Transfermarkt, expired in June. With his current form, I assume, there could be possible interest from other clubs. I wonder if signing an extension was a goodwill move to say thank you giving me an opportunity and to repay your faith, I'll sign an extension guaranteeing the club with earn a transfer fee.
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously there could be a difference in meaning because of translation, but the linked article makes it sound like the club picked up their option.
     
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  11. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1087 BostonRed, Apr 5, 2022
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  13. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really hope that he will be sold to a better team in a better league, this summer.
     
  14. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    #1089 The Irish Rover, Apr 5, 2022
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    Very plausible. To which I'd add "there weren't any serious offers from clubs I wanted to join and, to be honest, I think I need another season or so here before thinking I'm ready for those kinds of moves. I've started every game I've been fit for this season, whereas last season I was subbed on a lot. This is an ambitious club and I'm an ambitious player. We're also realists*, so I think this is a great place to develop."


    * "the buyout clause is realistic and guarantees Heracles a well-deserved profit"
     
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  15. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Which is a massive vote of confidence in him, of the kind that makes interested focus their attention. They're not happy to keep him. They want to keep him.
     
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  16. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are the terms of the buyout clause? Either I missed it in this thread or it hasn't been posted.
     
  17. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone want to do a crowd funding thing to buy out his contract and make sure he gets a move to a better club this summer? I'm in for a couple hundy!
     
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  18. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I have no idea what the terms are, if there even is one. However, buyout clauses are virtually SOP these days and since there was a club option it would have been prudent for Luca's agent to have negotiated (some of) the details of that when signing. Like all Eredivise sides, Heracles sell to the Top 5 and the Big 3-5 of the Eredivisie and other leagues and they want a profit but Luca doesn't want to be priced out of a desirable move, so IMO something would have been agreed.

    Also Luca's father is Spanish. IIRC buyout clauses originated in Spain and have been near-mandatory there since a 1985 law tallowed players without a buyout clause in their contracts to unilaterally rescind their contracts for a compensation fee to be decided by the courts (which would terrify any club). He'd be more likely than the average soccer dad to be aware of the importance of a good buyout clause
     
  20. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Guys who play regularly, and aren‘t on top teams don‘t get love.
    It‘s either top players, youth or fanatsies!:)

    The won 1-0 against Groningen. Actually a very needed win. If they had lost they would have only been 4 points above the drop.
     
  23. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heracles only had 34% possession in this game.
     
  24. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was Luca's best moment of the game
    https://streamable.com/2snsah
     
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  25. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Slick. Waiting to see what interest he drums up. Has to be someone? Right?
     
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