gotcha. thanks. and for clarity- this thread in Yanks Abroad, shouldn't include any Yank discussion? I hope you understand my confusion on this. and yes- I get that politics, trolling and whatnot seeped in over there, so... makes talking about anything US related not ok. in the Yanks abroad forum.
The point of the thread is to talk about Yanks in clubs abroad as it pertains to the club. It's very, very hard to divorce club activity from NT activity during roster call-ups, though, since they are entangled. I'd ask for some leeway for such occasions.
It's not that hard honestly. There is some leeway during international breaks - discussion of his form, implications on fitness/recovery, etc. Lamenting that he's not available to the National team and how that sucks for the National team performance - that's for the other forum.
It is a little confusing - but we originally set this forum up specifically not to be part of the USA Men forums because YA covers all sorts of topics that aren't relevant to the National Team (players that aren't eligible, players not good enough, etc.). One reason we are strict about it is because these threads are not meant to devolve into coach bashing, other competing National team player discussions, etc. which typically happens when things stray into the National Team.
In other words: try as much as possible to see the YA threads as if you were a fan of the club, not the player or the NT. We can talk about how Aaronson getting called and having to travel across the ocean could affect his recovery time, and how that is going to affect Salzburg push for another title (it won't, they are 12 points in the clear with eight games to go --and they should be able to beat two of their upcoming rivals even with the reserves). Sometimes the NT discussion has gone on for pages and I have been sucked into it failing to notice I was on the YA side. I apologize for that.
I think I'm sloooowly getting this with your guys' help. as a USMNT fan, and fan of USMNT players... outside of the player and relevance to the US, I give zero cares about Red Bull Salzburg or any other squad a US player plays on other than how it relates to that player and his potential for the US. I don't really get the why's still- as you say, it tends to all be related- but it sounds like I should strictly be in the other forum and not in here.
Always happy to help. It's not as complicated or confusing as it first appears. As a USMNT fan, think about what you would like to say, but don't say it.
Also, if you sprinkle a little "club" talk into your US Nats post, you can totally fool the moderators.
No amount of posting here will make me a Chelsea fan, FWIW. It's fine to just be a fan of the player - but many posters conflate the two forums because they mainly care about YAs and where they play as it relates to how they improve the National team.
We should move it to "MLS News and Analyses". Like "Have you heard what happened to that Philly allumni?". That forum has the nicest posters and moderators. They would welcome this discussion.
If you have a solution to that one - I’m all ears. Feel free - those chat threads are a different setup. Not sure why you have to find an off topic forum when there is a forum literally intended for that discussion but maybe it’s just cause I’m mean.
If you mean USMNT N&A forum you must be joking. That one is full of kids and every thread ends up with Roldan/Zardes/Lletget/everyMLSAmerican is a total shit, but Green/Brooks/Scally would have saved our ass if not horrible Gregg. Or something totally opposite. The idea that Gregg is good at something and not good or wrong at something else is too difficult to accept. Everyone gets labeled as a member of pro or anti Gregg brigade. YA forums is the only place where it's possible to hear reasonable opinions from well informed posters. I do appretiate efforts to keep it on topic, but don't see how you can have a strict line dividing YA club and NT performances. Is something like "Player X is in a poor form as he demonstrated in the last MNT games" or "Player Y is injured and should stay with his club instead of going to MNT" would be that decremental to the forum?
The problem we look to address is the takeover (by USMNT topics) of threads dedicated to the discussion of a player's club career. That's exactly why we don't draw a hard line, so if you're asking me, the answer to the final question--"Is something like "Player X is in a poor form as he demonstrated in the last MNT games" or "Player Y is injured and should stay with his club instead of going to MNT" would be that decremental to the forum?"--is no. I also think that questions comparing player performances in positions played for the USMNT vs the club are possibly okay, provided they don't end up focused on the USMNT. But if that discussion then morphs into "who should replace him on the USMNT if he doesn't start scoring for his club" then the whistle blows and everybody needs to get out of the pool while we use the pool skimmer to remove the and hold it that metaphor is taking me to places I don't want to go but I hope you get the picture. Unfortunately, this happens way more often than it doesn't when such topics are introduced. @dark knight and @TheFalseNine what do you think?
I'm probably a bit stricter than you are but I think I mostly agree with your post. Idle chat by regulars during the international break is probably mostly okay - but almost all National Team posts devolve into the kind of stuff he's talking about - bashing the coach. It's a subtle difference, but "Pefok has done enough to warrant a call up" is different than "The coach is an idiot for not picking Pefok." Apologies to all for the sidebar discussion but this is a recurring issue here. Perhaps deserves it's own thread. I can split it off.
We don’t want YA to be the usmnt forum. I’ve been here a long time. It’s not that difficult to fall in line with the expectations here.
Leeds is still interested: Update #Aaronson: He still wants to leave Salzburg in summer. Negotiations with Leeds are still ongoing. RB rejected offers from #LUFC in winter. But they still want him! It is said that Leeds is the favourite. Price tag: €25-30m. No release clause. Big talent! @SkySports 🇺🇸— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) March 28, 2022
Leeds obviously a good fit if Marsch is there and they are in the premier league. But with that sort of valuation you can usually find a better club.
Better-ranked or better for him? Leeds have wanted him for several months and under different managers, which means that if he goes there he's got a fast track to starter. That's not the case at a higher-ranked side. Add the fact that Marsch was his coach at Salzburg and this looks like a case where you tell your agent "unless Liverpool come in, make this one happen". The worst that can happen is that Aronson is in the shop window for a season and gets picked up by another EPL side on loan if Leeds go down
Has it been reported anywhere what the problem with the knee actually is? I don’t like “vague” knee injury reports.