Pre-match: WCQ Game 11. USA vs Honduras. 02/02. 1930ET. Saint Paul, MN.

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  1. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the most important thing i want to see tonight is after the final whistle somebody better have a cooler of gatorade to dump on gregg.

    thawed or a giant ice chunk, either way.
     
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  2. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The Athletic's reporters are noting that Honduras only practiced indoors on Tuesday.
     
  3. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Canada catching a break....?
     
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  4. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    Not fair, Canada doesn't need a break. We are the ones that need a forfeit to go our way!
     
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  5. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wow. thats shocking.

    i think canada would have been ok, though...
     
  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's crazy how we've had 4 straight coaches who's teams have looked worse on the road than at home.

    But obviously there's nothing to those games
     
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  7. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were fortunate against Honduras in their only Central American away game so far, I think the Cuzcatlan would be rocking...oh well I was looking forward to the game just to see how they looked. And get a preview of how they might look at Costa Rica and Panama in the next window... when we might need their help.
     
  8. Southern Man

    Southern Man Member

    Jun 14, 2008
    I'm considering Canada as good as qualified as they have a 4 point lead and the easiest remaining slate of the teams in contention. I would like to see them still having something to play for in the last window, but I have a hard time seeing then not being qualified prior to the last two match days. Their only real utility for US qualifying is against Panama, because if we end up worrying about CR, the wheels have already come off the bus.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Posturing. Bet they play in the end.
     
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  10. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Maybe Honduras will lay down. Let’s get the victory and hope for no injuries.
     
  11. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Now I want to figure out who CP would have called in that GGG didn't. Obviously Reyna and Busio, but they're unavailable. I think it's possible he would have gone with Brooks over McKenzie, Scally over Lennon, Sargent over Ferreira, maybe KDLF over Arriola. Not sure there's a huge difference, though.
     
  12. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Wuhhh?
     
  13. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham

    Take your hot plate outside when its cold. Turn it to 55 degrees. Hold your hand 3 feet above it.
     
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  14. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    No chance for a coach that cares and not an idiot?
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Even if already eliminated and with the players obviously sick of Bolillo, I bet the Catrachos come out with everything to make our lives difficult as a matter of principle.
     
  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He would have benched himself. Especially in Minnesota.
     
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  17. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rough Translation of Salvies NT statement, weird, looks like they complain about Federation giving up on their WC chances:

    First of all, we want to thank you for the unconditional support you have given us during this beginning of the process, for us it is a pride to be able to represent the country and give everything on the field for you and our families.
    We have been presented with some very relevant and negative events, which we cannot let go as professionals. It is important that we unite as players, so that both we and future generations can have the reasonable conditions that a national team player should have and even more so when they are competing for a higher team World Cup.
    We have lacked respect as professionals and people. This morning, President Hugo Carrillo and the committee chose the worst moment to distract us and recriminate that they had talked to the press about cold implements that we bought in Columbus. Using this as a distraction, to later say that they will comply with the prize agreement agreed in September when the Octagonal began. Mentioning that although there are mathematical possibilities, for them there are no real possibilities.
    Given these events:
    As a united group, we have made the decision to step aside and not suggest being part of these efforts by the federation. We will not play this game, to set a precedent and this will not be repeated for us, nor any selection from El Salvador.
    We ask the president and committee of the federation to take action in order to give the player the treatment he deserves and should have, without putting other needs first. This not only for this group, but for all the national teams that do not have the conditions to compete.
    Sincerely,
    Senior soccer team of El Salvador
     
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  18. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    Maybe they were hoping to fake out the Canadiens
     
  19. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    it's not a road game, it's a home game. defining it as not being "afraid" of the conditions you are creating by your own site selection is like jumping into rain puddles. the idea is usually instead something more like comfort or advantage. not tolerance or damage limitation. we could be playing in florida or california. under tropical conditions we won away 4-1.

    i keep trying to focus it on a combination of the effect on the other guy, and us as well, because the benefit would be some added increment of discomfort vs you being fine with it. or at least less uncomfortable. if you're miserable and racking up injuries then that's a high price to make the other guy cold too. and the cost-benefit isn't there if you have injuries you wouldn't have had, or no increase in home field advantage.
     
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  20. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is canada mathematically qualified yet/would 3 points here do it? (im not really asking, theres no reason for you or anyone to know offhand)...

    cause if this would have done it, and hugos boys planted some champagne near the canadian locker room that would have been pretty hardcore. i mean some next level concacaffing, right there....
     
  21. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be surprised if this game was easy. The gameplan to stifle the US is as clear as day... and it is also evident that our coach does not know how to adjust his tactics. I think the weather will lessen our talent advantage and I could see this going in a very bad direction. In short... I have lost faith in the coach and players. I am so tired of them playing below their potential. It is frustrating and makes for an aggravating watch. I used to look forward to Intl Breaks but now I don't. Gold Cup? Nations League? They are OK... but they mean nothing when you can't get it done in qualifying.
     
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  22. NNNJJJ

    NNNJJJ Member

    Chelsea FC, USSF Referee
    United States
    Oct 26, 2017
    San Francisco
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That seems not quite the same, though. If the entire field is heated, then you have to scale all dimensions down in the hot plate simulation -- how far off the plate you measure, the amount of wind, etc. Put another way, three feet off a little hot plate is not the same as three feet of a huge, heated field (if indeed it is).
     
  23. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    Anyone ever read "To Build a Fire"?

    (Hopefully, tonight ends better.)
     
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  24. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Prediction: El Salvador 1 x 1 Canada
     
  25. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is it also 5 degrees and a windchill in the negative teens/twenties?
     

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