Post-match: Canada Vs USA 01/30/2022

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by EXALIFTIN, Jan 30, 2022.

  1. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Panama just beat Jamaica 3-2. The U.S. really needs Mexico to score against Costa Rica, or finishing 5th could become a possibility.
     
  2. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The hero ball is on him. We try to beat teams with individual players. Not as a collective unit. Are players to blame? Hell yeah. Pulisic should apologize to the American nation for his performance today and against El Salvador. He shamed us. But Berhalter is the man who is ultimately at fault for our team not being able to beat USL league 1 level teams.
     
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  3. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    The thing is, if all of what you wrote is true-which I do tend to agree with-then it’s on your manager to figure out how to put guys j to positions that maximize success. Berhalter is 100% to blame for his inability or unwillingness to do that.
     
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  4. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Ok, thanks for the analysis...
     
  5. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    In real life. You think that all it takes to succeed is making the right call-ins, lineups, and subs. Nobody on this board would be able to gain the respect from the USMNT from the get-go, and despite his weaknesses with tactics, nobody on here would be better than berhalter, either. It’s okay to say that berhalter is bad, but you come off as a moron by claiming that dozens of posters on this board could do better.
     
  6. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    And 1998. Canada will be like USA 1998 at the WC. At best.

    Everybody will want to draw Canada in their group.
     
  7. KevinJRogers

    KevinJRogers Member

    NYCFC | VfB Stuttgart
    United States
    Jan 29, 2022
    Clifton Park, N.Y.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've stuck up for Berhalter myself, especially when the criticism has been a bit unfair. For one thing, none of us know exactly what's happening on the training pitch or in the dressing room. All coaches deserve the benefit of the doubt.

    But I have to agree, it's the same thing over and over. I keep finding myself saying "not our best game" and wondering when the complete performance is going to come. And that's ultimately on the boss.

    The worst part is, we're not surprising anyone. "Oh look, here come the Americans and they're in a 4-3-3." We're too easy to defend and too predictable on the attack.
     
  8. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Yep. We have to beat them. A draw won’t be good enough.
     
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  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    At points before Berhalter was hired, David Moyes and Julen Lopetegui had been interested in the job.
     
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  10. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    watching mexico vs costa rica, concacaf threatening us with a watchable football game for once.
     
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  11. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no - one point lead - as of now.

    but Wednesday will certainly provide exceptional clarity ....

    we will find out what kind of men we have on our team as they have to play truly on the frozen tundra in Minnesota.

    But same day Panama has to play against Mexico.

    So we get the Azteca visit in March - Panama has to play them in a few days.

    The sky is not falling - but Egg certainly got played like a fiddle by Herdman today - and he is presenting himself as clueless ....
     
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  12. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    TBF, the US came out in a 3-4-3 for the 1st half down in Honduras :)
     
  13. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Herdman will adjust. He knows that things will have to change for the World Cup, and I have no doubts that he'll make the right adjustments to have the team ready to play a game that will be more competitive at the World Cup.

    That's what good coaches do.
     
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  14. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    Moyes would have been a good coach. He knows how to coach teams with limited soccer ability but plenty of size.
     
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  15. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes greggs been hiding behind cream puff opponents for 4 years

    who has he beaten?

    anyone away from home?

    anyone better than an over the hill mexico?

    in 4 years?

    soooooo tired of hearing about his win % when it is mostly against bosnia d team on a lucky 1-0 win type game
     
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  16. ReynaRanger

    ReynaRanger Member

    Fulham
    United States
    May 23, 2021
    Jesus missed a half-open net twice and Wes blew an open header from near the 6-yard box but go off, king.

    I know we're all frustrated, but, christ, take a breath, folks.
     
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  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the real loss is that adams didnt headbutt buchanon on his way off the pitch.

    i mean, if hes gonna be out anyways...we coulda just mentioned the hamstring wednesday after his suspension was served.
     
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  18. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ive said this from the beginning

    adams isnt even necessary against a bunkering team

    id play 2 attacking mids and wes against what canada did
     
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  19. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    Haven't you been listening? He is the pep guardiola of MLS. He is revolutionizing soccer with american football tactics. He is the future.
     
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  20. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    For the USA, the Mexico-Panama game will be just as important as USA-Honduras. A beat down by Mexico at the Azteca Wednesday would really help the U.S.
     
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  21. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Yeah, but Mexico has everything to play for at this point. It's not like the last game of the Hex last time against the Ticos.
     
  22. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we should have been more open to playing against the ball when it became clear that covid was going to disrupt the original Hex schedule. Changing the way the world views American soccer is a fine goal...but the national team is further from a club environment than ever before. Very little training time and very little experience in the squad either... these are growing pains that I wish we could have experienced in 2018-2019 but our talent really wasn't coming through until now. The impression I get hear is that we need to be more direct...so do we want to play like Canada, stylistically?
     
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  23. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    don't think so .... there are so many good international coaches that would have loved to have led the US with all the young talented players.

    the USSF has made the de facto claim that only an MLS coach (current or former) is truly capable of integrating domestic and overseas players.

    that is hogwash.

    This is all about results.
     
  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    The Fed needs one of those Uber-executives who comes in, learns what creates success, and then makes it happen. Do you even have to be a psycho person. This is the approach they used to pull off a really well run Olympic Games. Or to lead major sports leagues. Anything to create some accountability.
     
  25. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama has the advantage of playing Canada at home. That’s a game they can expect a result. They’ll probably lose against Mexico. But they’ll probably beat Honduras. 21 points.

    We’ll probably draw Honduras 0-0. Lose against Mexico and Costa Rica. 19 points.

    We’ll be counting on a win to beat Panama. I bet we’ll draw. Panama climbs to third. And we fall to 4th.

    If Costa Rica starts racking up some W’s and we’re in trouble.

    Main thing is expect us to underperform in all of our games.
     
  26. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching MEX-CRC game, CRC doing us a favor, their forwards can't finish even if they lives depended on that.
     

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