WCQ 2022 - Colombia vs Peru (January 28th)

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by Froboy69, Jan 17, 2022.

  1. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Devastated. Complete disaster.
     
  2. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No sé cuántos aquí tengan más de 30 años, pero así luce el final de una era, a esto sabían las eliminatorias de 2002 hasta 2010, amargas, ardían. Pero bueno, asumo que se deberá plantear un nuevo técnico y nómina una vez finalizadas las eliminatorias.
    1. Ya por lo menos se sabe que es más efectivo un técnico extranjero.
    2. El formato de nuestra liga no es conveniente para la selección absoluta.
    3. Mientras la selección sea en su mayoría de jugadores en el exterior, Barranquilla no debe ser la sede.
    O sea, cosas obvias que irónicamente se han obviado.
    Un abrazo a todos
     
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  3. colombianballa91

    Jul 2, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The sad thing is that I cant think of any…I cannot fathom how this team cannot score one goal in six games..not even a bs lucky goal it literally almost took an own goal to get one. Its embarrassing.
     
  4. ColombianKilla

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I hope the likes of cav are happy for getting peckerman fired
     
  5. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Pekerman should have been fired but replaced by someone better.

    we did a bad replacement then another bad replacement that doesn’t mean Pekerman should have stayed.

    carlos Sanchez would still be starting

    so any of these bright ideas of beating Venezuela for the miracle win…. Haha I think we have a better chance beating Argentina in Argentina
     
  6. ColombianKilla

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It wasn't looking good but I would have kept him until qualification was in jeopardy
     
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  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  8. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Portugal
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Do we still have a chance if we win 2 out the next 3?
     
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  9. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    We've won THREE out of 15 matches. Let that sink in.
     
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  10. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Portugal
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I am not throwing the towel yet ..
     
  11. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Boy, what a horrible result.

    Of course Ospina was at fault for not covering his post but that doesnt take away that we really have no team. None.
    We don't have a serious tarting 11 that we know we can always count on. I've been complaining about James + Falcao who are
    well past their prime. James had an ok 1st half but the guy was spent after the 1st half yet Rueda insisted on the entire 90+ minutes. Cuadrado completely useless. Diaz didnt want to be there today. But what an embarrassing display.

    I'll add this much. Rueda has no place in this NT. He is completely overwhelmed and out of ideas. The fact that he still doesn't have a true field captain should tell you enough about his vision. Pathetic display today.
     
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  12. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #137 ryu79, Jan 28, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2022
    So exhausted emotionally after that.

    Ospina: 2 - Only had to make one stop all game and missed it to his own post. Worth asking if he was healthy enough to play because that should have been routine.

    Cuadrado: 3 - Mr. Hyde. His legs seemed to tremble with stress when he got into attacking positions. Seen on camera taking corners and free kicks from James that he shouldn't have been taking.

    Mina: 4 - Caught out of position on their goal because he was trying to play as an extra striker. Almost drew a penalty but Cuadrado was offside. Ironically, had the best shot of the game for Colombia from distance.

    Davinson: 3 - Just generally stresses me out.

    Mojica: 3 - So much work with 0 output. Simply couldn't beat the first man with his crosses and his uselessness offensively seemed to kill the vibe of the whole team.

    Barrios: 3 - Killed several attacks trying to get involved in the offense and then short circuiting mentally. One good dummy that freed Falcao for an unmarked shot at goal...

    Uribe: 5 - Actually liked some of what Uribe did today. He was spraying the ball better than I am used to from him and really making an effort to run down possession.

    James: 5 - His first touch let him down at the start, but once he settled he was the only one with any clarity to his game. One gorgeous throughball that 2014 Falcao buries... But sadly it's not 2014 anymore and James is kinda slow and Falcao almost maimed the keeper clumsily... Had some of our more promising shots from distance but none actually challenged the keeper.

    Diaz: 4 - Tired badly as the game progressed with less and less impact. Was stifled by how clogged the Peruvians made the last third.

    Borre: 3 - Just didn't do much. Seemed unwilling to attack/shoot and hesitant. (Commentators kept confusing him with James)

    Falcao: 3 - If I could turn back time. Had probably the best chance we've had since Zapata at Uruguay and kneed it. Struggled to make clean contact on anything. I wish he had come on as a sub as the game became messy as that's when his leadership and maturity would have made a difference.

    Subs:

    Borja: 3 - No impact. Morelos must wonder what he did to Rueda. Borja was coming off a poor start in Florida and his league just started.

    Alzate: 5 - I don't understand the choice to bring him on for Borré at all, but he recovered well and almost set up a goal.

    Chara: ? - WHY. The turnover that lead to their goal was so obviously not gonna work. I shouted 'what are you thinking?' at the tv quickly by the Darth Vader 'Nooo' as the counter exploded and it was clear they'd have a shot on Ospina. With as aggressive as we were pushing up you can't be that careless.

    Hinestroza N/A - why not sub him for Mojica 30 minutes earlier if you wanted more attack from that side. Seemed to just want to iso when he came in though.

    Rueda: 2 - Simply waited too long to adjust his scheme and when he did...the subs were bizarre. His team played with no urgency to end the first half and then played with no composure to end it (and his homeboy made the critical mistake that cost the game) - that's on the coach. Brutal.
     
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  13. lvbeto

    lvbeto Member

    Jul 27, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Let me jump on the Rueda sucks bandwagon. Wow, is this all we have. Give the ball the an average player (Mojica) and watch him cross the ball over and over and over? Is that the only game plan we have? Yimmy, our supersub? Seriously?

    Total waste of talent. We can still qualify but I don't expect much the rest of the way. We just don't want to qualify.
     
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  14. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Rueda I would rate a 1 and has ALL the blame.

    +Diaz was AWFUL today. Zero impact. Yet Rueda Kept him all game.
    +James was trying but his timing, pace and even shooting were ineffective in such a critical match. He looked exhausted by the 2nd half. He should not be starting. Yet Rueda kept him all game.
    +Falcao - see James comments + add that he looked even slower than James and that's saying a lot. Yet Rueda started him.
    +Ospina - had as you mentioned 1 job. And he failed. BUT was he not 100%? Yet Rueda kept him all game.
    +Barrios - you have got to be kidding me. The guy was the closest to MOTM we had tonight. He only shows up because there's no one else that will.
    +CBs - meh, they weren't really tested and if it wasn't for Peru being so passive maybe we would have more 'data' on today. They grew despereate as time went on and started to take bigger risk (Mina specially) to look for the goal. Yet Rueda never corrected it and left the back vulnerable.
    +C4 - awful. He's been awful for at least 2 years and .... Yet Rueda kept him all game.
    +Subs - worst read of a game I've seen yet.
     
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  15. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    That would see Colombia finish with 23 points.

    Ecuador already has 24.

    Uruguay has 19, they play Venezuela at home next so they "should" reach 22. Then they play Peru at home and the last game against a probably eliminated Chile.

    Peru now has 20 and they play Ecuador and Paraguay at home, other than the Uruguay away game.

    So, in short Colombia must win at least 7 of the last 9 points to have any realistic chance.
    The worst thing for Colombia is that if both Uruguay and Peru win their next game and Colombia doesn't win in Argentina, they can easily agree to a draw when they play each other...
     
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  16. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Correct. My Sunday co-Ed team captain can manage subs better than Rueda.

    Is there a rule that Colombian managers have to always make wacky choices for subs.

    At this point I nominate [mention]villus [/mention] or [mention]crzdcolombian [/mention] to manage the team. 6 games without a goal is an abomination.
     
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  17. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    #142 SiempreCrema, Jan 28, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2022
    This won't happen, I don't think either Uruguay or Peru will risk a direct ticket. We agreed last time cos we hadn't been to a World Cup in 36 years and took the repechaje as a "take it or lose it" deal.
     
  18. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Its so embarrassing how bad we've been. The players tried their hardest today, all of them were intense and I can't fault their effort, the game plan was non existent and the execution was pisspoor. Why was Morelos and Valoyes not in the squad? I almost want us to fire Rueda today because I'm not sure its possible to be worse and his formations/lineups and subs are bizarre at this point.
     
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  19. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Falcao complete 1/4 passes today. Our starting center forward completed one pass in 66 minutes, how on earth is this real?
     
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  21. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  22. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    He should say "I resign", honestly everyone was open to him getting the job and he had a lot of good faith but honestly this is a really poor job over a large sample size of games.
     
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ahhh, the Falcao special.
     
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was the weirdest of things to see Diaz step back and give the ball to Mojica so he could send a cross too low, too high or out of bounds. Rueda had no clear setting for how to deliver those crossings or an alternative for when Peru crowded the middle. There’s a point where you either send your CBs in and put everything in there, or set a lot of dribbling near the area in hopes of a free kick or a Pk; the team was just standing around the box and passing the ball to the sides with the same results over and over again.
     
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  25. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The guy that needs to step down is Jesurun from the Fed. This is two consecutive awful appointments after firing our best coach in recent memory over nonsense.
     
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