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  1. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  2. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Last place Quakes brought in Jeff Agoos in 2001 and things changed……
     
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  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Hopefully it's not that 50-year old CB from Liga MX with the bum knee.
     
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  4. davez

    davez Member+

    Aug 10, 2000
    Mountain View, CA
    Hopefully it's not a FOM
     
  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    So, maybe a CB on the way. Next up after that, hopefully: center forward and outside back.
     
  6. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Scraping the bottom of the barrel. For a second I thought that was Paul Arriola.
     
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oops I accidentally posted this in the preseason thread but I guess it belongs in the offseason moves thread...

    What the hell... Francisco Calvo?? This guy is a walking disaster, fans of every team he plays are driven crazy by his mental lapses on defense and cheer when he leaves.... that's why he's available, after having his option declined by the Chicago Fire. Let's hope Chris Leitch at least got him cheap, if that's the case he's fine as a #3 or 4 option.

     
  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Based on the little bit I read in the Fire forum, the consensus seems to be that he is skilled but "gaffe-prone", and would be better with a solid stay-at-home guy next to him and a solid d-mid in front. So, um, not sure I'd want to see him paired with Nathan :). FWIW he was an all-start in 2018, when with Minnesota.

    Example:
    "I think Calvo is better than most people give him credit for. He needs to be paired with a stay at home defender though. The lack of a D-Mid in front if him and a decent partner next to him simply expose the flaws in his game.

    Put him on an All-Star team and he’s an all-star defender. Put him on our team? Well, we suck too much to do anything well.

    Calvo takes risks that are sometimes rewarded and sometimes expose the players around him. We needed to put an intelligent player next to him that recognizes when Calvo is making a risky play and knows to stay at home to cover."

    Not sure this is really an upgrade to Alanis. He's probably going to be about the same $, maybe a little less. My guess is that he might be a little better, for a little less money (he was around ~900k last year). He's a little younger. On the surface seems like kind of a push.
     
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  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Yes that's exactly what I was trying to say, gaffe-prone is the perfect description of Calvo.

    2. Unfortunately we're probably closer to the Chicago Fire than we are to an All-Star team.

    3. I think he might be an upgrade over Alanis (if the price is right), but that's not saying much. And having witnessed many of his gaffes, it's hard to get excited about this move...
     
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  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    On the positive side, he seems to have assumed leadership roles on his teams (captain, etc.). He's 5'11" - a little bit of a thick build - lower body.

     
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #611 JazzyJ, Jan 24, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2022
    Not sure if you read this part of my post:

    Not sure this is really an upgrade to Alanis. He's probably going to be about the same $, maybe a little less. My guess is that he might be a little better, for a little less money (he was around ~900k last year). He's a little younger. On the surface seems like kind of a push.

    Anyway, interesting tack to Leitch's first moves with veteran players. He's acquiring intls, but intls with MLS experience. Good news is that it's low risk - you can see how the player plays in MLS (see Remedi). The bad news is that these players' contracts were not renewed for a reason. Doesn't mean they're bad players, but obviously not considered high value by their teams. Now there's a chance you can get a little better value with a lower salary, but not sure how much lower you can negotiate those salaries.
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes that's what I was responding to in 3, I pretty much agree with you, and in fact would take Calvo over Alanis so better than a push, just not excited by it.
     
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  13. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #613 JazzyJ, Jan 24, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2022
    The veteran MLS intl strategy is low risk, but also usually fairly low reward compared to bringing in an intl to the league. You already know how the player plays in MLS, so there's little to no risk. Let's say the player is a known grade "B" (A-F scale) player in MLS. You pretty much know you're getting a "B" player. If you bring in an intl into the league, it's high risk - you could wind up with an F, but high potential reward - you could wind up with an A.

    If we're bringing in "B" MLS players, it could make us a little better than we were with the say "C" players that we no longer have. But it's a pretty incremental improvement.

    Remedi is a good example. He came into the team as about a "B" MLS player. He played for us about like a "B" MLS player. I think he helped us a bit, but not by a whole lot.

    Of course there is the possibility that the player kind of flourishes on your team for some reason - chemistry, fit, etc. and their MLS "grade" goes up a bit. That tends to be more likely with the younger players but it's not always the younger players. It was a long time ago, but we had some of those "MLS grade improvement" players in 2005: Brad Davis, Ricardo Clark, Cerritos, Mark Chung, heck even Kelly Gray. Also, around 2012: Marvin Chavez, Gordon, Lenhart, etc. And then of course there's Wondo, who went from a C to an A+ with us. And then of course there's the possibility that they take a nosedive also. But usually, you get what you got.
     
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  14. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    We're really thin on defense right now - with Beason, Nathan, Lopez, and a bunch of untested draftees (TT is still listed as MF on the official roster) - so I can see the value of bringing in someone with MLS experience to help pad the roster and bring up the kiddies. I don't watch non-EQ MLS games, so I have little exposure to this guy, but it makes sense for me based on our needs.
     
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  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I hope they sign him for less than the 8-900k he made last year. If he’s not a lock starter, that’s too much.
     
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  16. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    soooo, according the reactionary young ( ) dude:

    wth!

    he's a walking disaster!

    a regular mental lapse maestro!

    fans everywhere are happiest once he's no longer on their team!

    he's only available because Chicago doesn't want him!

    he's super gaffe prone!

    might be better than Alanis but just barely, at best, probably a push!

    not in the least bit exciting!

    o_O
     
  17. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Doesnt sound like a starter from what I’m hearing.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Not a fan of Yedlin. He is on the downside of his career. He may be a good signing for established roster which could use a veteran to take them farther into the playoffs. While an area of need, he would probably cost us too much and not provide the impact needed.
     
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  20. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Even at his peak he was getting by on his pace and that's about it. He was never able to develop the technical aspect so that he could augment his speed and not he is even older and that speed is also getting slower. Hard pass!
     
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  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Not to mention, this may not be the best role model for Cade :) (just in terms of relying on his speed and not really developing the technical aspect of his game as much).
     
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  22. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not to mention Yedlin can phase out at critical times...notorious back post sleeper... he can't combo up field and can't buy a pass out of the back ...He'd still require a healthy contract.... So many negatives...titanium hard pass on Yeddy.
     
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  23. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    good move
     
  24. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I agree, smart move. He is steady and a good decision maker...a tad slow of foot, but reads the game well...he brings stability and positional awareness...very disciplined...and he is still a baby for a CB...many years before he hits his prime. Imo, a shorter version of Kessler with NE...who is a second tier fringe nats CB.
     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    "Protecting our backline for years to come."

    We're switching The Beas(t) to d-mid?
     

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