Preseason 2022 - What's next for United?

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  1. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  3. BlackandRedForever

    DC united
    Scotland
    Jul 4, 2021
    He isn't going to fetch 8 million during this window. Not surprised to see clubs in for him but that would be an insane amount of money for Kev right now
     
  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they get an offer for 8-9 million they have to take it. Can't have Lucho 3.0.
     
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  5. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    You would be stupid as hell not to take that money, we don’t have the capacity to build him up as a player, just get already performing players with the money instead.
     
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  6. The Ghost of Hamdi Salihi

    DC United, Brighton
    Scotland
    Jan 17, 2020
    Pleasant Plains, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Totally agree. I can still see why Arriola might want to go to a team that plays more like Berhalter's style, but can't see why United would want to get rid of the player who, along with Paredes, seems most suited to Losada's system.

    FWIW, Arriola's images have been scrubbed from the United website, although he's still listed on the roster, of course.
     
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  7. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Yea, sell him now. We definitely will replace him with a more than capable player.





    Just kidding.
     
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  8. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why does it always have to be Wolfsburg?:unsure:
     
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  9. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great - if these transactions take place we will be without two of our three best providers/assisters, leaving only Julian Gressel. Please tell me he's staying.
     
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  10. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    He’s staying. Average player with a large salary.
     
  11. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thirteen assists last year. I'm glad this 'average player" is stayingl
     
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  12. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Ok
     
  13. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gressel is above average in MLS. No question about it.
     
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  14. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Gressel is basically out only remaining player of value. Not a single other player would capture any decent offer.
     
  15. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Out of curiosity I checked out DCU on transfermarkt. Their numbers are created by feeding into an algorithm data about the league + player stats so I wouldn't give too much credence to the specific numbers but I do think it's a reasonably good indicator of relative value.

    Here's their top ten at DCU:
    1. Kevin Paredes $4.40m
    2. Julian Gressel $3.30m
    3. Edison Flores $2.75m
    4. Ola Kamara $1.65m
    5. Donovan Pines $1.65m
    6. Steve Birnbaum $1.32m
    7. Nigel Robertha $1.32m
    8. Russell Canouse Russell Canouse $1.10m
    9. Moses Nyeman $1.10m
    10. Brendan Hines-Ike $770
    (I removed him but note that they still list Arriola at #2 as that deal is not done. Value $3.30m, same as Gressel.)

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/d-c-united/startseite/verein/2440/saison_id/2021

    Also noteworthy (and rather depressing): DCU's roster is ranked as the 23rd most valuable of the 28 MLS teams. The only teams ranked lower are Miami (24), Houston (25), Chicago (26), Charlotte (27), and Real Salt Lake (28)

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/major-league-soccer/startseite/wettbewerb/MLS1
     
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  16. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Sounds like transfermarket is a load of shit? Maybe useful for who is worth more as you said, but prices are wildly awkward. For me the top 4 are the only ones that would capture any offers, the rest won't.
     
  17. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Apparently a very quiet weekend. B&RU reporting the possible purchase of Rojas is dead. The Arriola deal still not final and only Dyer reporting about interest in Paredes with no dollar figure attached to the Wolfsburg offer (if it really occurred). Opening match is about 1 month away and the crickets are becoming louder.
     
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  18. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    Going into every off season, I have an expect nothing expectation for the club, so this isn't really disappointing, it's more what I expect. Roster construction has been a mostly haphazard exercise for DCU the last few years and I suspect the overhaul Losada needs is not happening at any kind of reasonable pace. The only upside is possibly some academy guys will get chances to play and develop. It definitely seems like Neyman is going to get his chance. Have to start wondering about Yow if he doesn't show something this year. Whether or not they pan out is an entirely different story.
     
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  19. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's missing is any reaction from Losada about the club's action/inaction over the offseason. I would expect him to be pushing for new players, but if he is we aren't hearing about it. It's possible that Arriola and Paredes could stay, but if they go without adequate replacements under contract then the season will depend mostly on journeymen and promotions from Loudoun. If that prospect materializes, why would Losada stay?
     
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  20. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is my concern too. Silence looks a whole lot like an "I'm lining up my exit plan."
     
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  21. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe it is time for a "Sell the team, Jason" move...sigh
     
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  22. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Rumor on Reddit is that we got rejected by some third rate polish striker named Musiolik.
     
  23. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Meanwhile Orlando just bolstered their forward situation with Facundo Torres, 21 year old prospect from the Uruguayan first division.
     
  24. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because he's under contract?

    I do share your concerns, though. I hope he doesn't end up feeling like he was sold a bill of goods regarding DCU's ambitions.
     
  25. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    You have to think that just about everyone knows we're a clown car club. The agents have to know. If you're an up-and-coming prospect who gets linked with DCU, why would you come? Unless you think this is the only way you're going to get to the US and get a green card eventually, why? It's not like we'd be offering more salary than the next guy. Rooney got sold and figured it out in under a year. Gressel came for the money because ATL didn't have the GAM. I wonder how their budget looks today. I have to think Losada is starting to figure it out.
     
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