Oohh! Eduardoooh! Eduardoooh! Florentino Gazes As Emir's Cries Go Unrequited - Bienvenu Camavinga!

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  1. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    At Rennes he was deployed across all three different positions in 4-3-3 systems depending on who his midfield teammates were and excelled in all three positions. Not just a game here and there, he played all three pretty extensively as far as I’m aware.

    Just out of curiosity from my part, in the future it would really interesting to see a 4-3-3 with Camavinga and Fede take up the two centre mid positions and a Xabi Alonso type player take up a deep lying playmaker role behind them.
     
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  2. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    It's a bit cryptic, not a declaration that he prefers to play as a DMC, though it might be an inaccurate translation:
    "I like to play ahead of the defence. I also have to adapt to all the styles of play and positions that the coach tells me. I will give everything in the position in which I play. Not that I look like one or the other player. I like to play soccer. I don't know if it is more important to play as a defensive midfielder or later. I like to play in the centre of the field."
     
  3. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Also worth remembering that it's futile to plan that far ahead and for it to work as you anticipate. We tried to do that with Kovacic, and he decided he wanted to leave and Modric is still playing high level football. There are also players in the youth ranks that could completely change the picture, particularly someone with the talent of Bruno Iglesias who in a couple of years can be in the convo for the first team.
     
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  4. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    So Bellingham? Yeah, I know... Bellingham
     
  5. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Right by you there, probably the perfect fit in a couple of years. Just don't see how we'll be able to afford what his cost is going to be, but he is the ideal midfielder.
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Hes English, so we’re likely not going to get him in all reality. Plus that adds another 20% to the transfer fee - my guess is that he ends up at United, City or Chelski.
     
  7. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Reported exchange between Kiko Casilla and Don Florentino back in 2018 prior to CL final:
    Str8 gangsta
     
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  8. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Ahaha
     
  9. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Aug 15, 2019
    Cama was awesome today, that's really all there is to it.
     
  10. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Him and Fede were really really good, and we need to see more of them.
     
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  11. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Aug 9, 2018
    Camavinga has that special midfielder class, don't know how to describe it but you can usually see it in their touch, the way they fend off the opponent when in possession, and how smooth they look when they do so.
     
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  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    What is missing is Camavinga learning to move without the ball and spacing. When he learns that and adds maturity... watch out.

    That Modric-Zidane like elegance will start to overflow.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    To quote the German commentator: it's easy to forget that he's just 19. He'll make mistakes, he'll have good and bad days, but I like that basics. Good body balance, tough for his size, multi dimensional.
     
  14. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    His still adapting to the environment and new team, I’d never watched him at Rennes but did read plenty about him and one of his most impressive attributes was his reading of the game and being able to position himself correctly to open play and space for his team mates.

    Kids legit.
     
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  15. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Are you convincing me? Lol.

    Again, my point stands. He needs to understand spacing and movement when he doesn't have the ball. When he learns this he is going to fly.
     
  16. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Yeah he’s still adapting to his new team mates, at his age it will always take longer. KCM play a different game to Nzonzi and co.

    Hopefully he stays healthy because we’ve got a gem all for €35m!
     
  17. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    And whatever scrap minutes he gets he gets as a DM.
     
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  18. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    what was the point of buying him if he was not going to play? When he did play he was out of position and was not set up to play to his strengths, since we don’t press as a team.
     
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  19. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    He's very much in the club's plans but just like in Miguel's case, and Fede earlier, Carlo is the problem.
     
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  20. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    How is Carlo the problem? His hands are tied, he’s got to play the KCM and tactically you can’t change the system to suit the back up players. Inserting camvinga to cover for anyone of those three has not worked. He’s looked out of place, so it’s a self perpetuating problem that he’s not going going to get minutes since he doesn’t look good. Which he needs minutes to develop.
     
  21. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    It's a horrible mismanagement to be honest and instead of questioning tactics, there needs to be questioning regarding personnel and usage.

    Camavinga's problem is Ancelotti's fear of failure. The fear is so great that he doesn't play him as much because his youth; he doesn't trust Cama.
     
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  22. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Carlo chooses the line up that's how, and no he doesn't have to play KMC,, at least not every game. Not a single soul at the club would be mad at him for playing a player they've banked for the future, it's his awful management of young players that's preventing him from giving the kid minutes.
    Camavinga played well when he wasn't stuck playing in a position he shouldn't be in BTW.
     
  23. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    Yes, I can see how bad 59 minutes in 6 games meant for the youngster. But I am not too worried about Camavinga's minutes right now. He is a teenager on the mighty Real Madrid. He played out of positions a few matches ago and was playing poorly. I do not think Ancelotti should expose him too much pressure when he is not playing well. As I said a few weeks ago, Camavinga is younger than Peter, Marvin Park, Blanco and Arribas. He is only a boy. Playing him is good, but we also need to protect him.

    Fede is the one who should rotate with KCM. I have not compared his current minutes from before, but I think he is taking more minutes from KCM and the other midfielders. Ceballos also got some garbage minutes in three of last five La Liga matches.
     
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  24. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    If we're trying to protect him we shouldn't be shoehorning him into a DM position he would naturally struggle at...
     
  25. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    He had such a good start to his career at Real Madrid against Celta/Inter/Valencia etc but since then Carlo has destroyed him.Playing him left back against Sherif,left winger against Espanyol ,not playing him as a CM and sub him of game after game at HT.

    I dont agree that he should be protected because he is young...Pedri/Gavi/Nico are playing so well at Barca and Camavinga will be 20 next year this is not young in todays football ....nobody is going to wait for him to became 25 and became a starter then....by that time we will have 5 new midfielders signed....
     

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