Ex- Crew Legends: Players, Coaches, and Personalities

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by fidlerre, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Onstad must still have a high opinion of him. Houston still hasn't hired a manager, but it sounds like they are close.
     
  2. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    Guessing Zack gets the start today in FA Cup action at 3PM on ESPN+ for those interested.
     
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  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vito Wormgoor has signed with IK Start of the Norwegian 2nd division.
     
  4. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess he just likes playing a spring to fall schedule.

    One slight clarification, here, simply due to the maddening naming convention used in Norway: IK Start plays in the Norwegian First Division, which is the second tier of Norwegian football. They were relegated from Eliteserien, the first tier league, last season.

    Like how, across Europe, what we call the first floor of a building is called the ground floor, and our second floor is their first. Damned confusing, I say.

    Anyway, good luck to Vito. In Norway, I think he’ll be playing on quite a few artificial turf fields. I see another season ending ankle injury in his future.
     
  5. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Always hated how top tier of English football is the Premiere Leauge and tier two is the Championship, then we have leagues 1 and 2.

    Thanks, Premiere League formation, for ********ing that up...
     
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  6. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though, to be fair, what's our naming set-up in the States now?

    Tier one: Major League Soccer
    Tier two: USL Championship
    Tier three: USL League One
    Tier four: USL League Two, and maybe MLS Next Pro, with NISA tucked in there somewhere?
     
  7. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
  8. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nisa is, officially if not in reality, in the third tier.
     
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  9. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's found his level.
     
  10. amir.

    amir. New Member

    Jan 12, 2022
    Next pro and nisa are tier three with nisa
     
  11. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do you figure re: Next Pro? Tier three would include USL League 1, which certainly isn't a U23/development league.

    If Next Pro us basically a U23 league, that makes it similar to USL 2. Not a perfect comparison, I grant you, but I'm just not sure how it compares to other 3rd tier leagues.
     
  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4212 Bill Archer, Jan 18, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2022
    The word " tier" in this sense is a colloquialism originally applied by USL to explain where their teams sat in the mythical " soccer pyramid" vis a vis MLS.

    ( a pyramid implies that the lower levels build or lead to the upper levels, which is as we know a fiction)

    What matters in this context is the division level granted to you by USSF. They have specific criteria which has to be met.

    Third division is much more flexibly applied than first and second. You basically prove you have some viable teams and then pay them some money.

    https://kennethrusso.com/ussf-professional-standards/
     
  13. amir.

    amir. New Member

    Jan 12, 2022
    usl2 is amateur ball...next pro is a pro league and with no salary cap you could on paper bring high quality players in the six figures
     
  14. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure but why would you?

    Because you weren't losing money fast enough?
     
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  15. associa_tionfootball

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 10, 2019
    If you were I'd see it as a temporary thing. Keita and Morris were both making in the 100k range. I'd imagine Zawadski is in the same bracket.

    I'd guess in normal circumstances you'd want those types of young guys getting week in week out game time while you're comfortable with a Hairston making vet minimums sit on the bench in case someone gets hurt
     
  16. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except that Keita and Morris are on MLS contracts. Their salaries count against the first team budget. That doesn't change if and when they get loaned out for a game or two.
     
  17. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, technically, as homegrowns, their salaries don't count against the salary budget. But I see your point.
     
  18. associa_tionfootball

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 10, 2019
    Right, I'm saying in the future you could sign players of their caliber/potential (that you potentially don't have HG rights to) to MLS2 for a year without the cap hit on the senior roster.

    I'm just using their paygrade as an example
     
  19. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah duh. Can't believe I forgot that.
     
  20. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999

    England has a pyramid, US has a Garbage Plate.
     
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  21. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That said, England still has never beaten the US at a World Cup. ;):D
     
  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eric Dick signed by Minnesota
     
  23. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Loons Get Dick"
     
  24. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dick move.
     
  25. OzweegoSC

    OzweegoSC Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    CMH
    Dick Noses his way into Loon GK group, making it a four-way competition to land on top.
     
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