The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    I mean .... Lorient are 2nd to last in the league. Not the greatest measuring stick.
     
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  2. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
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    FC Barcelona
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    Argentina


    Should've had an assist too, but Di Maria with a shocking miss. Also has like six posts now on Ligue.
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    $70k per dribble. Money well spent, Qatar. :thumbsup:

    And they didn't even win.
     
  4. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    Yep . Di Maria miss was pretty bad.
     
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  5. Danko

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    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Everyone talks about PSG being underwhelming in attack but honestly they are just terrible finishing chances. Messi hasn't had his finishing touch, Neymar looked terrible in front of goal prior to his injury, Di Maria yesterday and in other matches was shocking and even Mbappe who scored a decent number of goals had several matches missing easy chances. Honestly Icardi has looked the most clinical and saved them points in a few matches.

    I just had a quick look at Understat. In all the games PSG dropped points in Ligue 1 this season... 0-2 loss @Rennes 1.40 xG, 0-0 draw @Marseille 2.05 xG, 0-0 draw vs. Nice 1.62 xG, 1-1 draw at Lens 2.29 xG, and 1-1 draw at Lorient 2.20 xG. In these five matches they collectively had 9.56 xG and scored just 2 goals.

    They faired much better in the CL but still subpar. In the games PSG dropped points... 1-1 draw at @Brugge 1.9 xG, 2-2 draw @Leipzig 2.7 xG and 1-2 loss @Man City 1.3 xG. That's 5.9 xG and scored just 4 goals.

    They can definitely still gain some more chemistry and fluidity in attack but their finishing just isn't up to par. With Messi 1 goal in 46 shots is just mindboggling. That has to regress back to the mean right...?
     
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  6. Bada Bing

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    [​IMG]

    Ramos Messi connection. :unsure:
     
  7. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

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    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    Good lob-pass from Ramos. What else can Messi possibly do to setup his team for a goal there though? What a miss, who was that?
     
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  8. Bada Bing

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    Di Maria.
     
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  9. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    From what I've seen, which granted isn't a lot, Mbappe seems to have stepped it up a notch this season. If he was the same Mbappe as previous years I wouldn't rate their chances of winning CL that high, but with him in this kind of form they could be the team to beat afterall. Then again, they clearly were second best in both matches against Man City.

    Neymar is now #3 in Paris though. He would have been King had he stayed at Barca but now not only is he in Messi's shadow (still) but also in Mbappe's. The dark side of the moon is jealous at how much shade Neymar gets.
     
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  10. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Neymar is an injury prone and he is not consistent enough to play full season.

    Mbappe while missing many chances but he has stepped up quite many times.

    Messi now looks sharper than his past months.
     
  11. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Tested positive with Covid.

    Get well soon.
     
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  12. Bada Bing

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  13. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
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    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Gotta say Hazard was incredible.
     
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  14. Bada Bing

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    Yeah, he was amazing in his prime. Wonder what happened when he became fat, and started getting constantly injured? He could become third in most dribbles in WC this year. Also only behind Messi in dribbles per game.

    Most successful dribbles in World Cup since WC66- (games)

    110 Messi (19)
    105 Maradona (21)
    78 Jairzinho (16)
    61 Kempes (18)
    60 Hazard (11)
    56 Robben (15)
     
  15. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Ahhh Kempes was a magnificent player ..
     
  16. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

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    FC Barcelona
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    Argentina
    True, I still rate his WC78 performance only behind Maradona WC86 and Messi WC14. Otherwise he was bit of a tool.
     
  17. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Just imagine his value in today’s world

    £200 million ?

    We were privileged to witness these scenes !

     
  18. Bada Bing

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    Finland
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  19. Danko

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    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Yea Messi is passing well but he should start scoring goals.
     
  20. Bada Bing

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    Scoring goals is hard when you're the one progressing the game. If you watch the other teams, they have midfielders progressing the game. PSG has Verratti, who is is needed for anykind of fluidity, but who is injured half the games.
     
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  21. Ozora

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    Barcelona
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    Aug 5, 2014
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    Benzema: Anyone criticize Messi in PSG don't know anything about football.

    Benzema is a Messi's fan.
     
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  22. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
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    Yep. However that comment was also meant to defend his performances. When people used to shit on him for not scoring and ignore the other contributions he had in the game. And now he has some poor games but if he scores a goal or two suddenly he is praised.
     
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  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    The silence is deafening in here. :)
     
  24. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    He is so poor. I mean, not even Messi's poorest Barca game look like his PSG game.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Also, seemed like he couldn't care less that they are out of the French cup based on his expression after the penalty miss.

    PSG can't do anything lately without Mbappe, which is a bit worrisome given the upcoming contest v LPB and the agreement b/w Mbappe and LPB.
     

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