UEFA Superleague idea

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by barroldinho, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    It was not until the first season of the football League reached its midway stage that the points system was agreed.
    Some clubs felt none should be awarded for a drawn game,

    but at a meeting in Birmingham in November a motion was passed by six votes to four in favour of two for a win and one for a draw.
     
  2. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    #1002 Courtneysmith, Nov 1, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2021
    the super league created in April 2021 by 12 European Football clubs is not a European Super League it is a Super league hence there being no Europe or European in the title of the competitions as it founders do not want it limited to any geographical area as they want the super league to be be moved to wherever makes the most money for it member clubs at any given time.

    Wait until the first half of Football matches is played at the south pole and the second half at the north pole. sound silly but if it is the best way to make money out of a match then someday somebody more than likely will do it.
     
  3. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020

    well you could stage the fixtures with the longest travel time for the away team at the start or end of the season so some of the travel to or from the match can be done through the close season. Not ideal but possible.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is why rugby and cricket "tours" were invented. You spend 2-3 months on the other side of the world playing multiple matches.
     
  5. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    #1005 Courtneysmith, Nov 2, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2021

    Indeed I get travel is the biggest difficulty to any international league.
    Hence why the European cup started as a knockout competition instead of a league format despite it's founder Hanot wanting a league format of any continental competition from 1935 onwards.

    another way is that one city/ is chosen and all matches in the league staged their instead of home and away to reduce travel.

    a bit like the Gibraltar league stages on a Friday one league game on a Saturday two league games, on a Sunday one league game on a Monday one match, 5 matches i.e one round of matches using just the one same stadium.
     
  6. Given the concerted to be expected actions of both the UK and the EU to block playing of the teams/players from the other side on their soil in that esl the only way to play the matches is, as I already stated some time ago, in another country like the USA, China etc. Hence the rugby like tours mentioned make sense.
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But that's because Gibraltar is only slightly bigger than Central Park in New York.
     
  8. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    Rationing. is the best way to protect the environment.
     
  9. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    [​IMG]

    ARE EU SERIOUS?
    European Super League BACK ON with radical new changes including relegation and promotion despite huge backlash

    • 17:57, 20 Oct 2021
    • Updated: 23:12, 20 Oct 2021
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consider the source.
     
  11. Courtneysmith

    Courtneysmith Member

    marseille
    Scotland
    Aug 25, 2020
    #1011 Courtneysmith, Nov 16, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2021
  12. winster

    winster Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Club:
    Besiktas JK
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having a second division is interesting. It basically guarantees that clubs like Real Madrid and Man U will never get relegated back to their national competitions.

    However, what's the point of a second division? Would any casual fans actually watch?
     
  13. Which is?
     
  14. EU legal adviser sides with UEFA, FIFA in Super League case
    [​IMG]USA Today|7 hours ago
    Super League was dealt a blow when an EU legal adviser proposed the European Court of Justice should back UEFA and FIFA in blocking the breakaway competition. Advocate General Athanasios Rantos proposed on Thursday that the court recognize FIFA-UEFA rules under which Super League should be subject to prior approval were compatible with European Union competition law.
     
  15. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64536218
    Football regulator: UK government confirms new independent body
    By Jonathan JurejkoBBC Sport
    Blocking clubs from joining a breakaway European Super League will be among the powers held by English football's new independent regulator.

    The plan for a regulator, recommended by a fan-led review last year, has been confirmed by the UK government.

    Preventing historic clubs going out of business is one of the aims, as well as giving fans greater input and a new owners' and directors' test.

    The significant move aims to protect English football's cultural heritage.
    The main purposes of the proposed new regulator will be:

    • Stopping English clubs from joining closed-shop competitions, which are judged to harm the domestic game
    • Preventing a repeat of financial failings seen at numerous clubs, notably the collapses of Bury and Macclesfield
    • Introducing a more stringent owners' and directors' test to protect clubs and fans
    • Giving fans power to stop owners changing a club's name, badge and traditional kit colours
    • Ensuring a fair distribution of money filters down the English football pyramid from the Premier League
    "The English game remains one of the UK's greatest cultural exports, with clubs and leagues around the world modelling themselves on its success," the government said before its white paper on football governance - a policy document which outlines the proposed legislation - is released on Thursday.
     
    Hexa repped this.
  16. This could be followed by the EU member states:
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  17. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I don't think they can do this. What they can do is prevent those clubs joining a breakaway League from also playing in English Leagues.
     
  18. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Why don't you think they could do it?
     
  19. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    If a breakaway league forms outside of UEFA or FIFA or the FA's jurisdiction how can you stop a team from playing in it? That team would then also be outside the jurisdiction. You could ban that team from participating in leagues and matches within your jurisdiction, but not from outside. The only thing that could happen is IFAB preventing a new league from using their rules (if they are sufficiently copyrighted and registered) but they could make a very similar set of rules with some minor changes to get around that. They can't stop themselves calling the game some sort of football, there are already several codes that do that. This is of course just an opinion and with breakaway football competetions being a recent thing in my country my knowledge of the laws as based on Australian law. European and English law may be different in some respects, but laws governing businesses in Australia are very similar to English laws on which they were originally based.
     
  20. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    The British government can give the regulatory body pretty much whatever powers they like. I don't see what could impede that other than UEFA or FIFA threatening to ban English clubs in response, which they would have no incentive to do.
     
  21. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    How would they hire players. If they aren't recognized as clubs with English FA and FIFA they won't be able to buy and employ players (which are currently registered with FIFA). Which professional player on earth would want to be employed by an amateur team? Which is what their legal status will be. I think this completely prevents participation from english professional team in the SL. You can create a new team (no fans, nor history) for the cash grab but which player would you hire? Retirees?
     
  22. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    They hire players the same way businesses (which is what they are) hire employees. Clubs who leave the FA, UEFA and FIFA already have a long list of employees. They would continue to be professional footballers and the clubs would continue to be professional clubs (for as long as their new league lasts)..
     
  23. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Except as soon as they are out of CL and EPL players would request a move to a real team.

    Do you really think if Man U decides to leave EPL and CL the current players would just stand by?
     

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