You 8-2 See One Team Score 9 Times- The Other Teams Thread

Leeds got ********ing dismantled by Citeh.

 

Tebas Papa will let them do whatever they want now that they are signing CVC deal. Remember he'd have allowed them to keep Messi had they agreed to CVC deal before.

Also why Barca need to cut down to 97 ME wagebill? That'd be 1/5th of their budget even by conservative estimates. The likes of Valencia should be allowed 30 ME wagebill if that's the case.

 

They certainly did, but the few times Leeds were able to mount any attack, that City defence didn't look that great, my feeling is the same for all the supposed top contenders for the CL and how they play, IMO if you can get pass the press all the defences look vulnerable

 

The reason why is complex, but mainly it’s a formula of short term, longer term debt against revenue.

https://www.si.com/.amp/soccer/2021/09/29/barcelona-salary-cap-figures-la-liga-real-madrid

The CVC deal would not increase it significantly, as that is a long term payment structure and those revenue projections will drop even further with no CL and less sponsorship money. Even with that deal Barca could not keep Messi.

I don’t think Tebas can completely bend the rules, as there is some accountability.

It’s pretty scary for Barca, it’s only going to compound without CL foorball and poor results. All of this talk about signings are pipe dreams. Any idiot can walk into a BMW dealer and talk to the salesman about an M7, but actually affording it is another idea…

 

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— Rik Sharma (@riksharma_) December 14, 2021

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I think the CVC deal is actually immediate cash injection to them, in exchange for taking a % of long term revenue.

When I think about it more now, they will definitely take this shitty deal, Laporta will go back with his hat in hand, get a short term cash injection to increase his wage bill and then bet the house on a new Ronaldinho-style signing (like Haaland) and hope his youth team can provide the rest.

Hard for me to see any other way out for them at the moment.

 

Basically it’s a way for the Camp Poo to get renovated for Barcelona;

However La Liga said clubs would be obliged to use 70% of the money they receive on infrastructure improvements, such as technology. A maximum of 15% can be used on player acquisition and a further 15% to finance debts.

it’s a bad deal all around and especially for us since we don’t need the money to finance our renovations. I’m guessing Barca don’t want the money since they can’t spend it on players.

 

So Aguero joins Barca, retires in less than 6 months, and still has more contribution/goals than Eden Hazard in el clasicos.

 

🚨 OFFICIAL: Real Madrid, Barcelona and Athletic Club have taken legal action against La Liga and their agreement with CVC.

— Infinite Madrid (@InfiniteMadrid) December 15, 2021

 

🚨| Official: Real Madrid, Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao have taken legal action has been taken against the agreements adopted by the La Liga Assembly on 10 December, which approved the Proyecto Impulso that La Liga intends to engage in with the private equity fund CVC. #rmalive

— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) December 15, 2021

🚨| Official: The legal action has been taken on the grounds that this is an illegal transaction which causes irreparable damage to the entire Spanish football industry and flagrantly violates the most elementary principles of Spanish sports and LaLiga statutes. #rmalive

— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) December 15, 2021

 

Unpopular opinion... While I love that Madrid is well managed and I give props to uncle Flo for this, I get worried by the state of Barcelona. I believe a lot of our success came and comes from having a strong rival that keeps us on our toes and wanting to improve. The current state of Barca and La Liga, in general, would lead to us being a tad bit complacent and being comfortable and that never ends well.

I'm just curious how Barca will dig themselves out of the current mess they find themselves in, how quickly they and other La Liga teams will improve and how we will continue to improve so we are more than considered favourites whenever anyone talks of the best teams in Europe.

 

Our time lines are not the same, we gain ascendance after a period of strength for them or another La Liga team, meaning we worked on improving when we were down. That is my point. When we are all dominant, we tend to be a tad complacent about team improvement.

 

Yea, RM had a great time during 99-03 signing superstars and winning CLs while Barca went trophyless. Flo took their captain away lol. So no one at RM cares for Barca being in good shape. Besides, only Barca are in the mud among big Spanish clubs.

Atlético just won the league last season and generally had their most successful phase in modern era under Simeone despite uninspiring football, Villarreal won Europa and qualified for CL knockouts for first time since 2009. Sevilla have largely done well under Lopetegui. Betis are back to playing at the level of a historical Spanish club with theIr big stadium filled with fans. La Real are going through a good phase with talents like Oyarzabal, Isak.

Athletic Bilbao got a good coach in Marcelino and won a title. Espanyol having their best season in more than a decade. Valencia up and down which has been the case for the most part from Soler era onwards. So basically only Barca are suffering and it's upto them to get out of the hole they dug themselves in.

 

99-03 you had a strong Valencia that kept us honest and improving hence the phrase I used "State of Barca and la liga in general". Our periods of greatness always coincide with having a strong rival in the league. We always laugh at the french league as a farmers league because PSG is alone. A strong league fosters a strong team. Bayern is the exception to that though.

Lets be honest here, we motivate each other. We just go about it in different ways. Nothing motivates Madrid to do better than Barca dominance and likewise nothing motivates them to do better than our dominance.

And again you prove what I am saying...while Barca trends down, valencia or pathetico are strong. They push us to keep on our toes. This isn't the case this year. All of them are on a downward trend together.

 

Valencia were strong in La Liga for one season. We handed them 2003-04 season by losing 5 games in a row when we had 7 point lead because our squad of 11 useful players had burnt out. Atlético won La Liga in 2014, 2021 and fought till penultimate week in 2016. They are the current La Liga champions ffs and knocked out dominant Liverpool from CL a year before that. Much more consistent than Valencia ever been.

 

La Liga had RM winning 5 in a row from 86-90 and Barca winning from 90-94. No one was keeping each other on toes. In fact, I wish Atlético choked last season and we won back to back league titles. We have won far too less league titles to worry about Atlético or Barca having bad years. Barca won La Liga so easily in 2013, 2017-18, 2018-19 because RM were way off. Didn't see any of their fans hoping for RM to rejuvenate then. Meanwhile we have a comfortable lead in La Liga since maybe 2011-12 and out fans acting like we are bored of winning league titles already. [emoji23] "Please ressurect Barca. We badly need you."

 

I understand the point you are making but i don't think it's that relevant right now in the overall big picture, even if other teams "seem" not as strong this season (and it's still early in the season) it's still just one season, for me this would have to be a recurring theme long term season after season for me to be worried about how it may affect our competitiveness

 

Besides, we haven't won anything yet. RM had 6 point lead in 2013-14 in February and Atlético won the title in the end. Gave up a good lead in January the next season too. Both happened under Carlo so let's not count our chickens already. I doubt we'd ever become like Bayern because most of the big Spanish clubs would rather not sell to us. Barca, Valencia, Atlético definitely won't.

 

It amazes me that you state this and still refuse to see the point I'm trying to make. when we won 5 in a row what happened? we got complacent, they caught up and won. When they won 5 in a row, we improved. In no way am I wishing their fortunes better than ours, what kind of fan would I be, but by darn I wish they were a challenge. Their current state isn't promising that they will be for a while. Thats what worries me. I'd rather win the league by 3 points than by 15 because I know we will look to be better the next year so its not so close. I don't know how people are finding it hard to understand that a strong rival works to improve you.

Where did I say Im tired of winning? Where did I even say I want them to win?

 

Does Bayern suffer the way the German League is done?

This notion is way overrated.