Preseason 2022 - What's next for United?

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  1. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Goff just tweeted that DCU and BHI's Belgian side have agreed "in principle" on a permanent transfer.
     
  2. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Would DCU have spent on younger talent? Probably not with Dave Kasper at the helm. Should they have done so? Hell ya. Imagine if WE found Raul Ruidiaz who was taken by Seattle the same exact month - for nearly identical money as Rooney. That's how to build a championship team. Rooney was so shortsighted. Now we're at the same junction.

    Will we pay money on young talent or buy an aged superstar? Or we can have both: Ruidiaz is unhappy with what Seattle is offering him.
     
  3. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are saying that the Rooney money could/would have been spent on younger talented players like Ruidiaz you are are mistaken and have never seen a United roster in your life. No the Rooney money would have been spent on a Flores esq Central/South American flop.
     
  4. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    I make clear that I'm not saying "could/would." I'm saying "should." I've suffered through incompetent, underperforming player selection like the rest of us since 1997. I know what they could or would do -- that's painfully obvious. This is the brain trust that brought us Gallardo, Bošković, Salihi, Rafael (who could forget him), Eddie Johnson (bought a dozen broken eggs), Espindola, Rodriguez and Flores.

    What I'm saying is what they should be doing.
     
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  5. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pay the man!

     
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  6. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    agreed
     
  7. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    This was done in '96 when they picked up Moreno but only because they listened to Etcheverry.
     
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  8. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would love to have another Boskovic, one of the most talented players on our roster who was terribly underutilized by Benny (and who admitted it to me).
     
  9. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    apparently a 50% bump from $100k to $150k. Pay him as much as the highest. Our attack went moribund without him.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    This is the club I've come to know and love over the past 25 or so years.
    It's enough to make me go back to watching American football.
     
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  11. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Let's hope the contretemps regarding Najar is just agent agitation and nothing more. The guy is integral to Losadaball. As Matt Doyle noted earlier this year, the way Najar was used was unique in the history of MLS. The defense apparently now includes: Birnbaum, Pines, Najar, BHI, Alfaro and COA. Birnbaum is at 700K, Alfaro 81K, Pines 125K, BHI 240K, COA 130K and Najar at 90K based on 2021 salaries. Brillant, who is gone, was at 300K. Slide Brillant's money to Najar, bump Alfaro, BHI and Pines and dump COA and you've got something. The albatross here is Birnbaum at 700K, is that Israeli club still interested?
     
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  12. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    Gallardo was fantastic - Unfortunately he got hernias which ended his career even back home in Argentina - If he hadn't them, then we would have rocketed in the league - And maybe he would have stayed on as a coach - His teams have won the Copa Libertadores

    Boskovic was under-used by Olsen badly -

    They weren't busts
     
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  13. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real talk, ya. It's all about potential, and that's nebulous at best.
     
  14. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rooney was "so shortsighted"? So you knew that Rooney would bail on DC United with two years remaining on his deal? How prescient of you.
     
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  15. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only out and out bust on that list was Rafael.
     
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  16. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    I have always been openly against contracting aged celebrity players. Waste of money. And while we're at it, here's what is hopefully the last nail in the coffin for the POV that spending more is necessary to bring championships:
    From the Athletic today:
    "The 2021 season was a good illustration of how spending doesn’t mean much in regards to MLS success. Even by the league’s wacky standards, this year was especially off-the-wall, with teams at the lower end of the wage scale dominating their higher spending counterparts during the regular season. Four of the five and seven of the 11 highest spenders in the league in player salaries didn’t even make the playoffs in 2021. The Colorado Rapids had the lowest payroll in MLS and finished the regular season with the best record in the Western Conference. The New England Revolution ranked 20th in player salaries and won the Supporters’ Shield en route to setting the MLS regular season points record."
     
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  17. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Disagree that Boskovic was a bad signing. Great player who we just did not know how to use and whose style clashed with United. Heck how can a player playing in the Euros regularly for Serbia and who is given man of the match honors against England can't get off the bench for DC.
     
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  18. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Totally agree. I also responded in another post.
     
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  19. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #169 nick, Dec 10, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2021
    Yes but New England had 3 superb DPs and several excellent TAM signings that were better than anything we had. It's not just what they spend it was how they spent it. Still, you have to spend to a certain level and I don't think you can count on hitting the ball out of the park on every signing. Also, keeping a strong team together requires more money and creative ways to stay under the caps. Of course that's not something United has to deal with.:rolleyes:
     
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  20. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree that Birnbaum is not the player he used to be and today is being way overpaid relative to his peers. The absolute opposite is true with Najar.
     
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  21. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Great point.
     
  22. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    We are a much better team when Andy is in the starting 11. Unfortunately that seems to not be on any artificial turf and we all know he's fragile. Let's hope for the best - he's certainly worth a buck fitty.
     
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  23. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    Fragile? he has the 3rd most minutes on the team this year, played 26 of 34, started 23. I believe most games he missed were due to international duty and not injury.
     
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  24. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Serbia? I thought he was Montenegrin?
     
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  25. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played for both Serbia (back when it was called Serbia and Montenegro following the Yugoslav breakup) then Montenegro when they became independent from Serbia forming their own country.
     

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