Building A Team For The New Bernabeu - The Summer Transfer Thread

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  1. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Original source seems to be El Nacional which is a Catalan newspaper. Unlikely that they have any RM sources. Though AS did mention we are following him few weeks back.
     
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  2. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    That back up will be Rodrygo next season when Mbappe comes :)
     
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  3. REALFOREVER

    REALFOREVER Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    I don't think anyone will meet Rudiger's wage demands.

    If the price is right then I have no problem signing him. Alaba/Militao/Rudiger CB rotation with Nacho as the 4th CB and 3rd LB/RB. You cannot be a serious CL contender with Nacho as the 3rd CB.

    Plus, next year Nacho will be a year older .... he turns 32 next January. In another year or so, Nacho is likely gone. He can then be replaced by a young CB, maybe even the Castilla defender that is getting hyped up. You don't want to be in the situation where you are having to shop for a 3rd and 4th CB at the same time.

    There is no need to overthink this.
     
  4. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
    Hey
    What do u think about our own players ? Why they don’t get a chance?
    Peter Federico
    Oscar Aranda
    Marvel
    Andi Gundyonsen (the son of)
    Reyes (the son of)
    Bruno Inglesias (he considered as the best potential)
    We have also:
    Bugarin (came from celta as big potential)
    Izan Lucas

    this kids are really talented
     
  5. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Yeah man! We should definitely bench Vinicius, Rodrygo, Benzema etc so these kids can get a run out during this pressure packed run of matches.

    Makes perfect sense. Especially because others like Asensio, Isco, Jovic, Camavinga, etc would never feel slighted or complain.

    I can see them now cheering them on
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    What evidence shows that is the case? Flo has stuck very closely to an incremental approach to contracts. Vinny wont go from 2 million to 15 million for his next deal. He’s done this with players in the past and if they don’t want to play ball, they get shown the door.
     
  7. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    Tchouameni or Gravenberch; those 2 should be at the top of our shopping list.
     
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  8. Forcamadrid2

    Forcamadrid2 Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 13, 2017
    You dont need evidence for that, it is in human nature. While it may not necessarily lead to player getting his wage demands or leaving the club, it definitely is a source of drama
    Rudiger will be 3rd CB, you cannot have him earn more than your starting CB.
     
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  9. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Part of what caused the Ramos drama was what other players were earning and being offered to earn.
     
  10. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    That's how Barca's wagebill spiralled. Everyone started demanding based on what Umtiti, Dembele, Coutinho etc were earning. They also continued to bring in the likes of Griezmann with 22 ME nett wages. Not to mention Pique, Alba, Busquets etc earning very high wages while on decline.

    RM only had Ronaldo earning 10 ME+ in 2015. Then Ramos got his extension and Bale jumped from 9 ME to 15 ME in 2016. No one else was earning 10 ME+ until Hazard joined. Club already leaked via Marca that they don't see Rudiger close to being Alaba's stature so 12 ME nett is not possible. Infact I see only PSG paying him that just like they overpaid Wijnaldum.
     
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  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, I just think we're being sensible B engaging talks, but I just don't see us paying the kind of money guys like Rüdiger and Süle are aiming for.
     
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  12. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

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  13. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    Last summer was great. VJ is basically a new player this season. Alaba is probably the third best central defender after Pepe and Ramos we had in the last 15 seasons. Camavinga proved that himself to be a valuable player on this team. Meanwhile, PSG rejected our offer for Mbappe, saving us money for other potential signings in the future.
     
  14. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    Disagree with the Alaba part. Not to say he has been bad but Militao has looked the better of the CB pairing.
     
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  15. Nico777

    Nico777 Member+

    Olympique de marseille
    Croatia
    Oct 19, 2017
    Real Madrid could get Mbappe Majer Rudiger and a back up for Carvajal without breaking the bank.
     
  16. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    So why is Casemerio on 12 million gross and Modric and Kroos is on 21 and 20?

    Benzema is at 19, surely he’d be at the 27 that hazard got or the 37 bale us on?

    It’s true that there will be comparisons for some, but not for all.

    Flo is not dumb. If the era of the mega transfer fees is over as a strategy and players are empowered to wind down their contracts to get the best deal possible, Flo will figure it out. Barcas wage bill was overpaying for average talent.on top of massive transfer fees and Messi being paid 90 a year.
     
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  17. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Difference is you're talking about gross wages and I was taking about nett. If it's gross, Griezmann earns 44 ME, Coutinho 32 ME, Bale and Hazard 30 ME etc. Flo only paid 30 ME gross/15 ME nett wages for those who had high image rights value (Bale in 2016 and Hazard in 2019 had good number of endorsement deals). Ramos, Alaba were the highest in the next tier with 12 ME nett. Rudiger doesn't belong to that group and wouldn't even be a regular starter at CB with Alaba/Militao at the club. Even if Alaba plays DM, that's only when Casemiro rests.
     
  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  19. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Gross and Net is the same as it relates to the proportion of the salary difference.

    Regardless, having a team where most of your players that are paid roughly in the same quartile is the goal here. Flo will sort it out.
     
  20. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Mino doing the Mino…..deep down he wants Haaland here. We’re the most attractive spot.
     
  21. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    ABC says Kroos close to renewing until 2024. Benzema's contract runs out in 2023. If we don't start renewal talks with Benz in coming months, probably means Haaland is coming and next season could be Benzema's final one at RM.
     
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  22. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Saeta- don’t get me too excited!!!!
     
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  23. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    If Rudiger accepts around 8 ME nett, it might happen. He currently earns 90k per week at Chelsea and rejected their renewal offer of 140k per week. Don't see any other club than PSG offering Rudiger 10-12 ME nett. Alaba got 20 ME signing bonus so Rudiger could get around 15 ME but wages won't be Alaba level because Vinicius apparently being offered 8 ME nett plus bonuses and Militao renewal could be around 7-8 ME max.
     
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  24. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Carlo already gave strong hints to Italian paper in an interview last week.

    "In one year, at the end of December 2022, the new [Estadio Santiago] Bernabeu will be ready and Florentino has big plans for July.


    "Florentino has very serious intentions. [Signing Erling] Haaland in addition to [Kylian] Mbappe? Let's talk about it later."
     
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  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    "we can influence the market with a player like that"

    Upwards, obviously. :D
     
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  26. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Well earned extension for the best midfielder in the world. What a privilege it is watching him. Generational player.
     

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