The Real Reboot Thread: Road to WC22

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 29, 2021.

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  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if you look it up its 48 min by car but Dortmund/Leverkusen both in West of Germany.
     
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  2. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Wirtz now definitely should be in the Qatar 2022 starting XI
     
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  3. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2 pre-assists and 2 assists from him today…in 2 years of time he should replace Muller at Bayern
     
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  4. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I was wondering after Gundogan retires from NT after 2022 World Cup, can any of the 4 players take his spot

    Denis Geiger
    Vitaly Janelt
    Niklas Dorsch
    Anton Stach

    all are 23 years old at this moment…to me Geiger is a like a like replacement of Gundogan with less flair in attack and more sturdiness in defensive duties
     
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  5. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    interesting how Tuchel plays Havertz as CF. Think he is improving his overall game in that position, just need more goals.
    Lukaku was impressive from start in Chelsea but has not been able to keep it up so far. Might be a chance for Havertz to actually get a lot of playingtime as a CF
     
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  6. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Would go with Stach, Geiger or Dorsch
     
  7. Dage

    Dage Moderator
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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2732 Dage, Dec 5, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2021
    Imo it impaires his best talents, his vision, acceleration and passing. He is way better with the game in front of him and I am sure a Tuchel only plays him as false 9 because there is no other possibility to integrate Havertz otherwise.
     
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  8. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Your on point
     
  9. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Want niklas Dorsch to make that position his own.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    there is also Maier and Ozcan (on rise) for young Ms who XI in 1BL.

    but tend to think the real class Ms are in younger age group aka still in YNT.

    do like Geiger a lot but sadly injury prone.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


     
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  12. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ja hahahaha
     
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  13. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Wirtz and Schlotterbeck making quite the strong case for themselves to be in Qatar
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


     
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  15. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    We should all be careful of overvaluing players based upon routs of weak opponents. That said I am a huge fan of Florian Wirtz and he is absolutely NT calibre. His performance in that game was fantastic albeit subdued for someone of his attacking quality. He seemed happy to play a supporting role.

    Not disagreeing with you, but in place of who for the starting line-up? Assuming Germany is using the 4-2-3-1 formation with a CAM (his primary role), the Flick's current XI is probably this:

    Neuer

    Hofmann Sule Rudiger Raum

    Goretzka Kimmich

    Gnabry Muller Sane

    Werner

    The like for like swap is Wirtz for Muller, but Muller is better atm (in a year who knows).

    The other position Wirtz is best known for is RAM. Do you take out Gnabry for him?
     
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  16. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    A player to consider in coming years: Marco Rente (CB; 24 years; 6 feet).

    Plays in Eredevisie. Second season for him after moving to Heracles from BVB II.

    Defensive stats are very good:
    Interceptions: 3.9/game (#1 in league)
    Clearances: 4.5/game (#5 in league)
    Tackles: 2.6/game (#12 in league)
    Aerial duels won: 2.3/game....a weak point
    Passing: 85%.
     
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  17. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    I have a very serious question for anyone and everyone.

    Has Matthias Ginter progressed in any meaningful way from the player that BVB bought and sold years ago?
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rente needs higher level, so for now these more likely
    95-Stark, Friedrich
    96-Kempf, Anton, Baumgartl, Hubers
    97-Torunarigha, Uduokhai, K.Schlotterbeck
    98-Leitsch, Jaeckel, Pieper
    99-N.Schlotterbeck, Klilian, Jenz

    of course not all listed are XI and some injured but at least playing higher level.
    once he moves could be contender.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't rate Ginter highly and don't trust him much either. Dev wise
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Thank you.

    IMHO a classic case of developed fast, peaked early, and made no significant progression since then.
     
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  21. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I am following Luca Kilian…he is also only 22 like Schlotterbeck and making progress this season…not everyone peaks at 22 so want to keep a eye on his development in coming months
     
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  22. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think Kehrer will probably start over RAUM
     
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  23. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Stark & Kempf were a very successful partnership in DFB youth teams, 2014 Euro u19 winners and 2017 Euro u21 winners. Shame that injuries have affected their pro careers.
     
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  24. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Why?

    I hope not. Kehrer is a CB and not really a FB, even though he can play RB or LB.

    Honestly once fit Gosens will probably be ahead of both of them.

    Both Raum and Gosens bring much more in attack as FBs than Kehrer.
     
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  25. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Really a shame. I heard the DFB had high hopes for Stark in particular.
     
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