Hey @Trachta10 has your Pele poll been updated and changed from 355 to 343 assists? which games had changes?
Some interesting facts have surfaced yesterday and today (to be clear, I don't think he is quite a forward of the first tier, unlike say KDB, Courtois, VvD or FDJ in their position - many compatriots react in a dismissive tone): Meeste goals en assists voor Oranje in één kalenderjaar (WK 1978 - nu):Memphis Depay - 25 (2021)Memphis Depay - 15 (2019)Dennis Bergkamp - 13 (1996)Patrick Kluivert - 13 (2000)Robin van Persie - 13 (2013)Bizarre cijfers.— Bart Frouws (@bartf) November 16, 2021 1 - No player recorded more goals, shots, Expected Goals (excl. pens), assists or chances created in the 2022 WC European qualifiers than @Memphis. King. pic.twitter.com/cShKMhobPZ— OptaJohan (@OptaJohan) November 17, 2021 Memphis Depay has now equalled Leo Messi’s direct goal contributions this year (goals+assists), with 54. pic.twitter.com/RoLjGw3yXg— Barça Universal (@BarcaUniversal) November 13, 2021 1460729574304595970 is not a valid tweet id Most goals and assists in one calendar year (OPTA, since 1988) 2021 Memphis Depay 25 2019 Memphis Depay 15 2013 Robin van Persie 13 2000 Patrick Kluivert 13 1996 Dennis Bergkamp 13 2010 Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 12 1990 Marco van Basten 12 1994 Dennis Bergkamp 11 2014 Arjen Robben 10 2010 Rafael van der Vaart 10 2014 Robin van Persie 10 2010 Wesley Sneijder 10 2019 Georginio Wijnaldum 10 2011 Dirk Kuijt 10 2010 Dirk Kuijt 10 (see the strange gap to #2 and the rest...) The European topscorers of 2021 (games, goals): Memphis Depay Nederland 16 17 Harry Kane Engeland 16 16 Cristiano Ronaldo Portugal 13 12 Robert Lewandowski Polen 12 11 Romelu Lukaku België 12 11 Eran Zahavi Israël 11 9 Karim Benzema Frankrijk 13 9 Antoine Griezmann Frankrijk 16 9 Aleksandar Mitrovic Servië 8 8 Patrik Schick Tsjechië 11 8 Kylian Mbappé Frankrijk 14 8 Ferran Torres Spanje 15 8 --------------------------------------------- "Justin Bijlow has taken the average highest VI rating during the World Cup qualifying cycle. The Feyenoord goalkeeper trumps Stefan de Vrij. Bijlow, who injured himself in the penultimate match for the all-deciding game against Norway, recorded an average of 6.67 in his duels. The closing item thus scores slightly higher than the 6.58 of De Vrij, who also had to miss the apotheosis of the World Cup qualification due to physical problems. The podium is completed by Virgil van Dijk with a 6.5. We only looked at the internationals who received a grade in more than half of the ten preliminary round matches. To collect a match rating, a player must have been in action for at least thirty minutes. Ten internationals met all criteria and Georginio Wijnaldum finishes at the bottom with an average of 5.61." THE FINAL STANDINGS: International Average Number of reviews Justin Bijlow 6.67 6 Stefan de Vrij 6.58 6 Virgil van Dijk 6.50 6 Davy Klaassen 6.33 9 Memphis Depay 6.25 10 Frenkie de Jong 6.15 10 Steven Berghuis 6.06 8 Daley Blind 5.83 9 Denzel Dumfries 5.81 8 Georginio Wijnaldum 5.61 9
Hi @Trachta10 I did a comparison of Pelé and Maradona in world cups. I want to know if the data is correct and if there is something to correct. 1461068909453398019 is not a valid tweet id
There are two errors, Pelé played 1198 minutes and something interesting, it seems that opta give Maradona one assist in WC82, so it would be 9 in total.
Maradona's minutes are correct? According to misterchip it's 1917 minutes. A comparison could be made with Messi who also played 4 World Cups Maradona-Messi en la Copa del Mundo:Títulos: 1-0Finales: 2-1Ediciones disputadas: 4-4Partidos: 21-19Minutos: 1917-1624Victorias: 12-12Goles: 8-6Goles en Fase KO: 4-0Asistencias: 8-6Tiros al palo: 3-3— MisterChip (Alexis) (@2010MisterChip) June 30, 2018
Ferenc Puskás season 1959/60 Age: 33 years, 2 months in the last game of the season 36 games played (3240 minutes) 49 goals, 5 penalties, 4 free-kicks, 2 headers 26 assists (opta criteria) 29 assists (transfermarkt criteria) Real Madrid, scored 132 goals (3.667 pg), received 50 goals (1.389 pg) Per 90 minutes: Goals: 1.361 Goals-PK: 1.222 Assists: 0.722 (opta) Goals+assists-PK: 1.944 Goal+assists-PK contribution percentage: (1.944/3.528)= 55.12%
[QUOTE = "Trachta10, post: 40094025, miembro: 292409"] Ferenc Puskás temporada 1959/60 Edad: 33 años, 2 meses en el último partido de la temporada 36 partidos jugados (3240 minutos) 49 goles, 5 de penalti, 4 tiros libres, 2 de cabeza 26 asistencias (criterio opta) 29 asistencias (criterios transfermarkt) Real Madrid, marcó 132 goles (3.667 pg), recibió 50 goles (1.389 pg) Por 90 minutos: Goles: 1.361 Goles PK: 1.222 Asistencias: 0,722 (opta) Goles + asistencias-PK: 1.944 Porcentaje de contribución de gol + asistencias-PK: (1,944 / 3,528) = 55,12% [/CITA] That he did not win the ballon d'or that year is practically a robbery
Do you have the source? This is what I used http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1960/05/19/pagina-3/644779/pdf.html
Puskas doesn't assist this goal does he (Del Sol I think?), and the others Di Stefano scored are after actions from the right not by Puskas, and the second time after the goalie spills the ball anyway, so I think you are correct that he doesn't have one in that game. Goal! Di Stefano. 1960. Real Madrid - Eintracht Francoforte - YouTube
I checked again and in ABC is mentioned that the last goal of Real Madrid was scored by Di Stéfano with a pass from Zárraga
Ah, ok, yeah that's probably right then. I didn't even have the sound on yesterday when I found the clip lol, if there was any on that video, and I didn't have any clear recollection about it being Del Sol or anything. It didn't seem like Puskas to me anyway which was what I was double checking.
György Sárosi - 1937 1st Match : 24 Years 4 Months 22 Days Last Match : 25 Years 2 Months 26 Days 40 games played (3600 minutes) 68 goals, 10 penalties, 2 free kicks 33 assists (opta criteria) 35 assists (non-opta criteria) 13 hattricks, 4 assist hattricks Ferencvárosi TC and Hungary, scored 158 goals (3.950 pg), conceded 61 goals (1.525 pg) Per 90 minutes: Goals: 1.700 Goals-PK: 1.450 Assists: 0.825 (opta) Goals+assists : 2.525 Goals+assists-PK: 2.275 Goal+assists contribution percentage: (2.525/3.950) = 63.92% Goal+assists-PK contribution percentage: (2.275/3.700)= 61.49% Ferencvárosi TC : 34 games played 58 goals 10 penalties 2 free kicks 26 assists 28 non-opta assists 139 GF 52 GA 60.43 g+a c% 57.36 g+a-pk c% Hungary : 6 games played 10 goals 0 penalty 0 free kick 7 assists 7 non-opta assists 19 GF 9 GA 89.47 g+a c% 89.47 g+a-pk c% 2.147 Match Rating Average (1st in Ferencvárosi TC) (-1) Best Rating ever recorded (19/09/1937 vs Czechoslovakia)
The 'Myth' of Marco van bastens 1992 ballon dor Gabriel Batistuta Serie A 1991/92 23 years old 13 non penalty Serie A goals 2284 minutes played(25~ matches) 0.52 non penalty goals per 90 Fiorentina finished 12th place in serie A Fiorentina scored 44 goals in Serie A Gabriel batistuta scored 30% of his teams total non penalty goals in the league Marco van basten 1991/92 27 years old 16 non penalty goals 2665 minutes(30~ matches) 0.53 non penalty goals per 90 AC milan finished 1st place in Serie A AC Milan scored 74 goals in the league van basten scored 22% of his teams total non penalty goals in the league To give this some perspective and a rough idea of what kind of team Gabriel batistuta was playing for In 1991/92 fiorentina finished in 12th place in the league In 1992/93 fiorentina were relegated to Serie B In 1993/94 they won back promotion to Serie A In 1991/92 AC Milan won the scudetto In 1992/93 AC Milan won the scudetto Van basten missed 19 of the 34 league fixtures that season In 1993/94 AC Milan won the scudetto Van basten did not even play 0.1 seconds of that campaign To bring even more perspective Gabriel batistuta 91/92 scored 5 match winning goals in Serie A and fiorentina won 10 league matches that season=50% share of his teams victories Van basten 91/92 scored 7 match winning goals and AC Milan won 22 matches that season=31.8% share of his teams victories https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/serie-a/gamewinners/wettbewerb/IT1/saison_id/1991/plus/1 If even more context was required 3 of van bastens 7 match winning goals in Serie A 91/92 were penalties None of those match winning penalties were won by him https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mar...os=&minute=&pos=&torart=204&stand=gamewinning While 0 of batistutas goals in Serie A 91/92 were penalties I dont even need to bring assists into the discussion Especially between one playing for a relegation zone team and mediorce level players and someone playing with ballon dor podium players who could win leagues and champions leagues without him At his peak gabriel batistuta 97/98 had more assists(10) in the league then Zidane,Ronaldo nazario,rui costa etc Like van basten before him batistuta was also one of the few Serie A strikers to combine 20 league goals with 10 or more assists in the same season Only difference was batistuta required 0 penalties to achieve this feat Gabriel batistuta Serie A 1997/98 28 years old 21 league goals+10 assists 0 penalties 2790 minutes(31 matches) 65 team goals https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Batistuta Batistuta was directly involved in 48% of his teams non penalty goals Fiorentina finished in 6th place Marco van basten 1991/92 27 years old 25 league goals+11 assists 9 penalties 2665 minutes(30~ matches) 74 team goals Van basten was involved in 36% of his teams non penalty goals in Serie A AC Milan finished 1st place Batigol is still argentinas all time top goalscorer in the world cup He is still Argentina's top all time goalscorer in the copa America(Messi just equalled this after playing in more then double the matches) at the end of the last century(1999) he had 0 notable club trophies This was before his move to Roma and his partnership with Totti that won them both their only scudetto In 1999 Gabriel batistuta with 0 major club trophies was ranked as a greater historical player then Giuseppe Meazza,zinedine Zidane,lothar matthues,ruud gullit,Karl heinz rummenige,Romario etc http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamHons/HonsWldSocPlyrsCent.html Ballon dor winners Multi world cup winners World cup winners Multiple World cup finalists European cup winners That tells you all you need to know about how bad career choices can prevent you from reaching what's rightfully yours Yeah im suggesting with the right story and the league titles of someone like Robert lewandowski hed be percieved as someone much greater then this. Playing as the spearhead of Marcello Lippis juventus in the mid to late 90s Batistuta would've been something mythical and unprecedented in European football at least since Eusebio
hi Trachta in your assist estimation for Pele have you included the fifty nine season and his Cosmos assists or the work is still in progress?
Hi bro, yes sadly I have not found a good source yet for the season 1959, so the best I could do is just an estimation, the same happened with the games in Cosmos, where there is a source but I suspect it uses the same criteria as transfermarkt.
I added some more players, and in the table added the column "V2" which is just the goal+assists contribution percentage but assists have a value of 1.33 and I also count the goals received with a value of 0.5, this benefits player that played in stronger teams. The calculation is. (G+A*1.33-PK)/(GF+GA*0.5-PK) Raúl David Villa Lautaro Martínez Mauro Icardi
The general table, assists have a value of 1.33 and the goals received have a value of 0.5. Also, create a table that benefits players who played large numbers of games, like Cristiano Ronaldo
Hi everyone, I checked on the Internet about Leonidas da Silva, one of the best Brasilian striker of all time. I saw for him 547 goals for club & country and estimated 119 assists with a total of 666 goals contribution in career. However, if someone has a better statistical database for him, I will be interested
Sándor Kocsis Hungary : 68 Games 5797 Minutes 75 Goals 49 Assists 263 GF 0 Penalty 1.16 Goals p90 0.76 Assists p90 1.92 G+A p90 47.15 G+A c % Ferencvarosi TC (1946-50) : 84 Games 70 Goals 40 Assists 286 GF 1 Penalty 0.83 Goals p90 0.48 Assists p90 1.31 G+A p90 38.46 G+A c % https://www.mediafire.com/file/0dvfcc21vh78qcn/Sándor+Kocsis+Stats+(2).xlsx/file Ferenc Puskás Hungary : 85 Games 7406 Minutes 84 Goals 55 Assists 326 GF 11 Penalties 1.02 Goals p90 (0,88 Non PK-G p90) 0.65 Assists p90 1.67 G+A p90 (1.53 Non PK-G p90) 42.64 G+A c % 40.63 Non PK-G+A c% https://www.mediafire.com/file/3buaa5abcqndxcr/Ferenc+Puskas+International+Stats.xlsx/file
[QUOTE = "CristianoPuskas, publicación: 40124088, miembro: 357895"] Sándor Kocsis Hungría: 68 Juegos 5797 Minutos 75 Goles 49 Asistencias 263 GF 0 Penalti 1.16 Goles p90 0,76 Asistencias p90 1,92 G + A p90 47,15 G + A c% Ferencvarosi TC (1946-50): 84 juegos 70 goles 40 asistencias 286 GF 1 penalti 0.83 Goles p90 0.48 Asistencias p90 1,31 G + A p90 38,46 G + A c% https://www.mediafire.com/file/0dvfcc21vh78qcn/Sándor+Kocsis+Stats+(2).xlsx/file Ferenc Puskás Hungría: 85 juegos 7406 minutos 84 goles 55 asistencias 326 GF 11 penaltis 1.02 Goles p90 ( 0,88 Non PK-G p90) 0,65 Asistencias p90 1,67 G + A p90 ( 1,53 No PK-G p90) 42,64 G + A c% 40,63 No PK-G + A c% https://www.mediafire.com/file/3buaa5abcqndxcr/Ferenc+Puskas+International+Stats.xlsx/file [/ QUOTE] Do you know how many assists Puskás gave for the Spanish national team?