Wan Negotiation At A Time - The Aaron Wan-Bissaka Thread

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  1. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Right, like even his own millionaire teammates couldnt help.
     
  2. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    He was still an academy player then, I think.
     
  3. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Yeah, I remember.

    It doesnt make a difference to me. In America, we have school buses that drive across a county to pick up and drive kids to school. MUFC should have something like that.
     
  4. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    Oh I get you. Like there should be buses for pick up and drop off of youth players. Makes sense.
     
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  5. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

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  6. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
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    Dalot time to step up.
     
  7. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    What is it with English players some sort of car violation. Seems to always happen.
     
  8. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    My logic is generally footballers are quite out of touch with the world, and with foreign players clubs are more involved with player liaisons to try to help them integrate in their new countries with things like paying council taxes, or driving regulations and requirements

    Whereas with English players in England they're left to their own devices and these sort of results occur
     
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  9. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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    But isn't driving licence and insurance common everywhere? Anyone learning to drive and own a car is supposed to take care of these on their own.
     
  10. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    You'd think that wouldn't you......
     
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  11. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Haven’t read the details (is the Daily Mail - so wouldnt want to dirty my soul with their take on things) but driving while disqualified usually means there is a prior offence such as excessive speeding that lead to the disqualification.

    The insurance thing is a bit of a poisson rouge / follow-on in that you wouldnt / shouldnt be able to get insurance while disqualified anyway.

    Getting in his car and driving, when he presumably knew he was disqualified does not sound too good …
     
  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
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    Time for AWB to hire a driver I suppose: probably going to have his license suspended for a while.
     
  13. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

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    I'm reminded about Bill Burr's bit about white people and lotion...
     
  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    Geez! What is that a gun? Is it registered?!

    That is one of my favorite bits by him.
     
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  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jun 4, 2006
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    Manchester United FC
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    i've been critical of him, and he has been pretty bad of late, but in his defence i will say that he hasn't had a proper mentor or any kind of mentor since he joined. as a young player he should have that to learn from. whatever he could have learnt from Dalot never materialised because he went on loan.

    that said i still don't think he'll make it here long term. telescopic leg or not. i know commentators say this from time to time but it amazes me that he could have had any consideration at all as a winger when he was younger. no close control? no finesse to his touch? no dribbling ability? who thought that was a good idea???

    sadly i also think Keane is right in that Palace wouldn't have him back either. the other youth they brought through Mitchell or something looks better
     
  16. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

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    Did he really miss the Arsenal game today because he had a bruised hand?

    If so, the boy is softer than baby shit.
     
  17. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    He's no Ronnie Lott, that's for sure.

    Maybe AWB not having the confidence, preferring to sit it out, and Carrick not really trusting him to do the job. Somewhere in between that probably explains it.
     
  18. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
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    Jul 13, 2018
    AWB cost £50million, the defensive signings under OLE were all below utd standards.
     
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  19. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

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    Maybe that is why he was moved to right back. I am almost afraid to say that Brandon Williams is as good on the ball as him and that is saying something.
     
  20. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Crap sources (mostly via Duncan Castles), but being reported that AWB fined for not turning up to training and claiming to be ill.

    If any truth then seems to fit a pattern that we seem to have a player culture / player power problem at our club ...
     
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  21. MizzouMUFC

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    AWB is one of the dumbest buys we have made in recent years. It shows the club doesnt understand the pieces that go into making a top team. Name me one top team that has defensive wingbacks? They dont exist anymore because in the age of 4-2-3-1 you need wingbacks for width in attack. We bought a traditional RB that has elite tackling, horrible defensive positioning, and is useless in attack. And we paid 50 mil for it.
     
  22. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    Ghana
    Well when you have a team built around counter-attacking it's not as crazy but when you don't then yes it is
     
  23. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
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    I agree. That's also partly why Maguire looked decent when he first joined and looks terrible now. Maguire is a decent stay at home, compact, field crosses type of defender but hes awful for a team that wants to play on the front foot.
     
  24. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    System wise at the time, both AWB and Mag looked to be a decent/ok fit. But when you realize we paid 130mil or thereabouts for THEM? That is what makes you head spin: at those prices, we should have had world class, adaptable talent, not middle of the road, very much system driven/limited players like those 2.
    It always felt like money down the drain for the both of them: we wanted to believe and back them, because they're what we got. But it was always clear they were middling buys at best.
    And if/when we decide to move them, we'll lose lots of money but I'd bite the bullet and try my utmost to sell both, as soon as this summer. If we can only get about 50% of their value back, then so be it.
     
  25. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
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    #100 Ashur, Feb 4, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2022
    The club paid record fees, whether it's England ones (for Pallister) or world record ones (for Stam and Rio). All those guys were worth breaking the bank for on one level or another, but Maguire... Really? Anyone with a shred of football know how would have known that was a bad (and just laughable) idea.
    Then, as if the pressure of his price tag was not heavy enough, we go on and make him captain right off the bat because Ole.
    So much for that 'culture reset' thing that was being peddled at the time. We're going to buy supposed top English talent (at inflated rates I might add) to build a spine around, just because Ole wanted to copy what SAF used to do back in the day. Great plan.
    Thank God we were spared Longstaff at 50mil or God knows what other move we tried to engineer than that eventually fell thru...
     

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