COVID-19: OhMyCronus!

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Nov 29, 2021.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When it comes to treating a virus with an anti-parisitic drug I'd always trust a nurse with a PhD in education on YouTube over the CDC, EMA and WHO.
     
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  2. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  3. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That was pretty much the opposite of what I was saying, wasn't it.

    Don't be an idiot, there's a good a good chap.
     
  4. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    With testing typically done 2 or 3 days before travel (until recently) it's not too surprising. And the number of people submitting fake results would blow your mind.

    The problem is policy and a lack of will from governments and the public to do something about it. So here we go, thousands more dying because money or some other such BS.
     
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  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    BTW, people might want to skip forward to 1:13:50 on the YT from the GTK Bioinformatics guy, (the 2nd one), as it sums up the position.
     
  6. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's my thinking as well.

    But also politicians don't want to upset the punters who want to go on their skiing, scuba holidays or whatever.

    This Omicron variant might be OK, (although we'll have to see, obviously), but what about new variants?
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I thought it was a requirement.
     
  8. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  9. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    You haven't been paying attention. :coffee:
     
  10. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we all had some Goop, we'd all be fine.
     
  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Do you have a link pertaining to that? I wasn't aware of that.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    John Campbell (nurse)
    British Internet personality and YouTuber

    John L. Campbell is a British social media influencer and retired nurse who achieved attention during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic for his explanatory videos and updates on the virus.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(nurse)?wprov=sfla1

    Early life and education
    Campbell received a diploma in nursing from the University of London and Bachelor of Science in biology from the Open University. He subsequently earned a Master of Science in health science from the University of Lancaster and a Ph.D. in nursing education from the University of Bolton.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yes - e.g a common quarantine hotel scenario is test before flight. Then quarantine. Tests day 3 and 11. That is actually better than before, when the first test was usually day 3 after arrival. Even still many don't test positive until day 11.
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's on his YT homepage...

    https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching/about

    There's no attempt to deceive anyone. He's entirely open about who he is and has consistently told people to get the jab.

    TBH I've ignored the Ivermectin stuff altogether, not least because the NHS HAS looked into alternative low-cost therapeutics which is how we ended up with Dexamethasone, of course. If they thought Ivermectin was of any use, they'd say so.
     
  15. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well, these folks tested positive when they'd just landed, so...

    Like I say, something appeared to be going wrong which is presumably why they changed it. Whether this new setup achieves anything we'll see.
     
  16. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    England
    I sometimes wonder how the pandemic this year would have turned out if Trump had won *shudder*. Would vaccination rates be any higher? It's undeniable some Republicans are refusing the vaccines for purely political reasons: you just have to look at any news report interviewing them. Fox would surely not be a platform for skepticism of the vaccine the way it is now, if Dear Leader's name was attached to it.

    But as you say, the denialism was there in 2020 when he was in power and I'm not sure why the existence of vaccines would change that. Guess it's easier to pretend there is not a problem than doing the work to solve it.
     
  17. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More like "impervious".
     
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  18. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely--the denial, and accompanying obstructionism, would have continued.

    Contrary to a lot of conventional wisdom ("Mussolini at least got the trains to run on time"), being incompetent at governing is a feature, not a bug, of autocratic regimes.
     
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  19. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I encountered lots of them before Jenny McCarthy began to be well-known for her anti-vax views. But she had two big things going for her that other anti-vaxers I was aware of didn't/don't, and they helped her views get more attention.
     
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  20. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Oprah and her being booked by every talk show for one.

    Out of curiosity, were they the stereotypical new agey types being antivax or the other types that were more religious and such?
     
  21. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Yes....they were real and were spectacular! :notworthy:
    [​IMG]
     
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  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, I thought that's what he meant as well.

    Not sure if it's great minds thinking alike or both being as seedy as one another.
     
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  23. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Remember…there are two steps in testing. Sample collection….and the tests itself.
    Poor sample collection can affect test accuracy. If the virus/antigen/antibody is present in your body…but evades the collection device….it doesn’t matter how accurate or sensitive the test is.
     
  24. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    I'll never, EVER be that fearful of damnation. If I have to make the choice between suppressing my joy when my enemies die, and going to Hell, I'll high-step thru Hell's gates with my dick in my hand and a smile on my face
     
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  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Y'see, I can absolutely accept that a proportion of the tests aren't accurate, for whatever reason. But I think, when 10% of a large number of passengers arrive and are found to be infected immediately upon arrival, that's not how it's intended to work, presumably.
     

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