The 2023 U-20 Player Pool Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by David Kerr, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Who do people consider the top 03/04 strikers who aren't named Pepi or Sanogo, and why?
     
  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    #202 ussoccer97531, Nov 1, 2021
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    Cowell has to be up there. Matthew Roou, Roald Mitchell, Sam Sarver, Fabrizio Bernal, Tyler Freeman, Patrick Weah, Fede Olivia, Jackson Hopkins, Christian Torres, Korede Osundina, Diego Otoya are some other options. Not all of them are natural CF’s, but most of them have played the position before, or project to being able to play the position IMO. I don’t think it’s a bad group of depth, if hypothetically the top 3 are Pepi, Sanogo, and Cowell.
     
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  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    What ussocer said...........................plus Sealy.
    Still a project, but he has a lot of tools.

    Has anybody seen enough of Fede Oliva to have an actual opinion?
    A legitimate big-time prospect or a kid who happens to have a big club on his resume?
     
  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Somewhere in between. I should’ve also included Sealy. I forgot about him, but he can play CF.
     
  5. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fede is pretty solid with his feet, and a good athlete. But doesn’t yet have any parts of his game that I would consider to be a standout trait or elite yet. In the 2004 cycle he was a locked in starter and arguably a top 3-5 prospect. When moving up into the u20 cycle whether he makes rosters or not is up in the air because this winger pool is deep with guys getting it done at the first team level who also would likely be progressing the same way is Fede is at Athletico. Fede may be a guy who was very negatively impacted by the u17 cycle getting cut off after not making a huge impression in the only u17 camp

    From that first 2004 camp Zach Booth was the only winner from people I’ve talked to. Apparently the kid was top shelf the entire camp and a level above everyone. Zach may not be super involved in this new u20 cycle again because of the significant depth in his position in the older 2003’s where that year gap at this age does make a difference
     
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  6. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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  7. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I am certain Seattle won’t release Reed Baker-Whiting but I would have loved to see him.

    It’s not even playoffs - it’s still the regular season and some of these guys have USMNT calls already.
     
  8. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The top 5 thread eligible players in terms of G/A per 90 with a minimum of 500 minutes in USLC.
    1. Tyler Wolff .990 G/A per 90; 636 mins
    2. Diego Luna .653 G/A per 90; 1928 mins
    3. Roald Mitchell .630 G/A per 90; 571 mins
    4. Jonathan Gomez .487 G/A per 90; 2217 mins
    5. Serge Ngoma .435 G/A per 90; 827 mins

    If you up the minimum number of minutes to 1000 in USLC then it's
    1. Diego Luna .653 G/A per 90; 1928 mins
    2. Jonathan Gomez .487 G/A per 90; 2217 mins
    3. Johnny Perez .397 G/A per 90; 1132 mins
    4. Christian Torres .289 G/A per 90; 1243 mins
    5. Antonio Leone .179 G/A per 90; 2011 mins
     
  9. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    He hasn't been too good this season, but he deserves a call up at some point. I'm not sure he's good enough currently, but it may be close. I think the 03's and 04's are sufficiently deep in midfield that he's down the depth chart for now. His teammate, Leyva, is also likely going to be unavailable, which may get some other players called into this camp.
     
  10. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  11. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
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    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Larry Sunderland?
     
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  12. Agent_Orange

    Agent_Orange Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Nov 17, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  13. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
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    Millwall FC
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    United States
  14. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Dude named his kid Beckham. How can you quibble with that?!?!

    It makes sense - not good sense - but given US Soccer's MO and current situation it makes sense to go with Sunderland because he's worked with the USSF preciously and is currently heading an MLS academy so he has a lot of youth contacts.

    He's actually pretty well-respected but he keeps ending up in piss-poor situations for player development - Chicago, Portland, Cincinnati - which makes one question why, if he's so good, he doesn't end up in better places.
     
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  15. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
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    Makes sense, he was the guy who coached this 2003 group in their u16 cycle and was the coach during the only u17 camp last cycle
     
  16. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    Any idea when the roster is released? The tournament will start in exactly one week.
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Sunderland has a very different profile than Hudson, who had coached two national teams and an MLS organization before getting the job. Like Ramos, I guess, he'd been coaching youth (not a perfect parallel, of course), and played some pro ball, though not at the levels of Ramos or Hudson.
     
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  19. efried

    efried Member

    Sep 7, 2020
    Sunderland would be a nice interim option if they’re any to wait for luchi who imo is going see what the mls job market brings first
     
  20. ussoccer97531

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  21. ussoccer97531

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    It can’t be any later than early next week IMO.
     
  22. The meaty part is at the end where he said he's 50/50 between Poland and the US.
     
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  23. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Sure he is.....
     
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  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

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    I think Miazga said the same thing. Did Las also say the same thing? I think he might’ve. I think we are a long way from worrying about this for many reasons.
     
  25. DeweyEvans

    DeweyEvans Member

    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    People
    They're reporting to camp in 4 days.
     

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