World Cup 2022 Qualifying General Topic [R]

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by EvanJ, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. Douglas Campbell

    BVB
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    Pulisic & Reyna are still not playing for their clubs, even after the national break... that sucks.
     
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Concacaf's Best 11 by matchday:

    Matchday 4:
    Navas (Costa Rica)
    Figueroa (Honduras)-Sanchez (Mexico)-Dest (USA)
    Davies (Canada)-Osorio (Canada)-Arriaga (Honduras)-Musah (USA)
    Aaronson (USA)-Duenas (El Salvador)-Pepi (USA)

    Matchday 5:
    Crepeau (Canada)
    Davis (Panama)-Lawrence (Jamaica)-Moreno (Mexico)-Johnston (Canada)
    Ruiz (Costa Rica)-Borges (Costa Rica)-Herrera (Mexico)-Godoy (Panama)-Henriquez (El Salvador)
    Lozano (Mexico)

    Matchday 6:
    Blake (Jamaica)
    Johnston (Canada)-Moreno (Mexico)-Dest (USA)
    Musah (USA)-Rodriguez (Mexico)-Buchanan (Canada)-Fisher (Jamaica)
    Davies (Canada)-David (Canada)-Roofe (Jamaica)

    Nobody made it three times. Dest (USA), Davies (Canada), Musah (USA), Johnston (Canada), and Moreno (Mexico) made it twice.

    On Twitter, Concacaf makes polls of "who wins?" without draws as a choice. A majority of people picked Panama to win at Canada.
     
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  3. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Figueroa made a team of the match day...is CONCACAF really this void of quality CBs? Ik Honduras obviously is, but what about everyone else. Tough to believe noone performed better...
     
  4. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Ever since the World Cup stopped being an invitational tournament, there has been 2 playoffs between Conmebol and Concacaf sides:

    1962: Mexico beat Paraguay, 1-0 on aggregate... back when Concacaf was split into CCCF+NAFC and Conmebol was unwilling to play full qualifiers.

    2010: Uruguay beat Costa Rica, 2-1 on aggregate.

    That's simply the facts: no group currently outperforms the other in those playoffs.
     
  5. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Yea so CONMEBOL are odds on favorites to beat whoever the 4th place CONCACAF is.. ok thanks.
     
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  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...except, once again, there's no official confirmation as to what the intercontinental playoff pairings will be. Just a few press outlets that you'd expect to know better, misinforming their readers by failing to distinguish between speculation and fact.

    The same way certain outlets (including Marca) insisted almost to the day of the Copa América Centenario playoffs that they weren't going to happen, and Panama and Trinibago would get the last berths automatically :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Looking at recent friendly results by the teams likely to finish #4 in C-CAF:

    Costa Rica tied Bosnia in Bosnia back in March;
    CRC tied Qatar in Austria in November 20;
    Lost to Uruguay in Costa Rica 1-2 in Sept. 19

    Panama tied Qatar 3-3 in the Gold Cup this summer;
    Lost 1-0 to Japan in Austria in November 20;
    Got beaten 3-0 in Colombia and Uruguay in June 19

    Canada beat the All Whites in Spain 1-0 back in March 2018

    These teams seldom play anyone outside the region. Friendlies don't mean anything, of course, and two years is a very long time in soccer. Style-wise, though, Central American teams tend to be a lousy fit for C-BOL ones. They try to play a similar style, but with much inferior players.

    A Caribbean team would have a better shot IMO. Canada has trouble traveling to Central America, they'd melt in South America.
     
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  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Official J.F.F
    @jff_football
    4h
    No spectators will be allowed at our FIFA World Cup qualifying fixture at home against the United States on Tuesday, November 16.
     
  9. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Who the USA visiting on the 16th?
     
  10. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
  11. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Wtf is up with that btw? What are the covid rates like in Jamaica?? They're the only team in the Ocho playing without a crowd... Seems bogus af
     
  12. winster

    winster Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Club:
    Besiktas JK
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They had a huge spike in August-September...something like 1/3 of covid tests were coming back positive. Covid is definitely on a downswing right now though.
     
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  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC Jamaica already announced that their January home game against Mexico will have fans in the stands.
     
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  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Sounds better than "Chances Are We Finish Seventh Out of Eight."
     
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have a lot more faith in Costa Rica than I do right now :ROFLMAO:
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #642 EvanJ, Nov 9, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2021
    FIFA writes positively and makes teams sound like they have a chance at qualifying. FIFA's articles should not be used to guess probabilities. If you were a player or manager, would you be willing to be interviewed for an article that said you won't qualify?

    Here are Friday's Eastern start times:

    Honduras vs. Panama at 8:05 P.M.
    El Salvador vs. Jamaica at 9:00 P.M.
    Canada vs. Costa Rica at 9:05 P.M.
    USA vs. Mexico at 9:10 P.M. (in Cincinnati in the Eastern time zone starting at 9:10 P.M. local)

    Here are next Tuesday's Eastern start times:

    Jamaica vs. USA at 5:00 P.M.
    Costa Rica vs. Honduras at 8:05 P.M.
    Panama vs. El Salvador at 8:05 P.M.
    Canada vs. Costa Rica at 9:05 P.M.
     
  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/1380c...view_2022-FWC-qualifiers_01-Nov-2021_Full.pdf has discipline:

    Teams:
    Canada: CHF 5,000 fine from hosting El Salvador on September 8
    Canada: CHF 10,000 fine for two offenses hosting Panama on October 13, Canada and France are the only teams disciplined for not following COVID rules
    El Salvador: CHF 30,000 fine and one match with fewer spectators from hosting USA on September 2, offenses include a pitch invasion
    El Salvador: CHF 3,000 fine from hosting Honduras on September 5
    El Salvador: CHF 12,500 fine from hosting Mexico on October 13
    Honduras: CHF 60,000 fine and one match with fewer spectators from hosting USA on September 8, only team disciplined for a "fight amongst spectators"
    Honduras: CHF 30,000 fine and one match with fewer spectators from hosting Jamaica on October 13
    Mexico: CHF 100,000 fine and two matches without spectators from hosting Canada on October 7 and hosting Honduras on October 10 (FIFA combined the two games into one act), the third biggest fine in the world behind Hungary's CHF 200,000 and Albania's CHF 150,000
    Panama: CHF 50,000 fine and one match without spectators from hosting Costa Rica on September 2 and hosting Mexico on September 8 (FIFA combined the two games into one act)
    Panama: CHF 20,000 fine from hosting USA on October 10, offenses include a drone

    Costa Rica, Jamaica, and USA have not been disciplined.

    Players:
    NARCISO Orellana (El Salvador): 2 match suspension and CHF 5,000 fine for serious foul play
    JACOBO SEGOVIA Mario Alberto (El Salvador): 1 match suspension for DOGSO
    MAYNOR Alexis Figueroa Rochez (Honduras): 1 match suspension for DOGSO

    Denying a goalscoring opportunity or dissent gets a 1 match suspension, serious foul play gets a 2 match suspension, and "unsporting behavior towards a match official" gets a 4 match suspension. A 4 match suspension has been given to three players, none of whom are in Concacaf.
     
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  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo

    Just for extra info, CHF is Swiss Francs. It is currently worth a little more than a dollar.
     
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.fifa.com/news/borges-we-are-on-the-up is titled "Borges: We’re on the up." Celso Borges has 144 caps for Costa Rica, which is tied for 47th all-time, tied for 9th among active players, and 11th among Concacaf players. By the end of WCQs, he could be the 7th Concacaf player to 150 caps.
     
  21. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Jamaica should be able to get something from El Salvador today
     
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  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Honduras up 1 nil :eek::eek:
     
  23. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honduras scored in the 30th and 59th, but Panama scored in the 77th, 81st, and 85th to win 3-2. Honduras had three consecutive corner kicks in stoppage time. Honduras is now 7 points behind fourth, and that will go up if Canada wins hosting Costa Rica. Panama trails USA by 4 goal differential, and USA has a game in hand, which is scoreless at halftime hosting Mexico. In my prediction contest, seven of eight people predicted Honduras to win, and jagum predicted 0-0, so nobody got any points from that game. It was the 25th Octagonal game, and it was the first game in which both teams scored at least 2. All three games at halftime are scoreless.
     
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  25. DaniChandler

    DaniChandler Member

    Jun 9, 2013
    Panama Canal
    Club:
    Cruzeiro Belo Horizonte
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    Panama next game is at home against El Salvador and We couldn’t be in a better position to get out of this window with 6/6 points.
     

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