Ricardo Pepi thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is very much in flux. Pepi is #1 for now but even he hasn't solidified it. Zardes, Hoppe, Sargent, Pefok and Dike have all been going through the revolving door to compete for that #1 spot along with backup spots. Be nice if a 2-3 start separating from the rest.
     
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  2. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    -GGG sees Hoppe as a winger

    -Sargent is in terrible form, I dont see him getting out of it anytime soon. Didnt even get called into camp. Will he get called in for November? Dont see why he would if he werent in a 3 game window camp.

    -Dike he's nowhere near the national team

    -Pefok, Not in last camp, has been in poor form lately. Not much of an upside with him.
     
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  3. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    That's the way I see it too. All of those guys are pretty close right now, and we'll probably roll with whoever has the hot hand at the moment.
     
  4. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    I dunno, I see a group of struggling guys with major issues. I wouldn't expect any to be in good form come the WC. We need to grow our pool. Hoppe? Balogun? Weah as a backup?
     
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  5. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    To be fair to beerholder, he has admitted Hoppe is playing out of position on the wing. He may not see him as the best choice starting striker, but he still tries to get him on the field. And he has to balance it with what's worse - large drop off at wing or small drop-off at striker (or even large drop-off at striker, but with game in hand).
     
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  6. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    Why didn't GB even try him in the Gold Cup at striker then?
     
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  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because Gregg only brought like two wingers to the Gold Cup, Arriola who got injured within 15 minutes, and Lewis who it was deemed not good enough within 15 minutes (to Gregg, it was clear to the rest of us in Olympic qualifying).
     
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  8. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    This was when he made the comment. @xbhaskarx answered
     
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  9. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, that's how I see it too. I was just agreeing with the sentiment that Pepi isn't fully locked in as the #1 option. I still want to see more from him to prove he is above the rest of the options. He might still just be the one who happens to be hot out of a bunch of mediocre options (like Dike might have been last spring).
     
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  10. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    If we want the CF to score and give the offense a spark, the only player who has done that lately is Pepi. However, it is hard to fault forwards in situations where the midfield is punchless, as it so often has been over the last few years—when it has lacked someone who is willing and able to progress the ball forward through the middle third and connect with the forwards. Who knows what any of our CFs would be able to accomplish with Musah, DLT, Reyna or Busio building the attack instead Captain Backpass.

    Given the kind of spark he provided at the Gold Cup, I hope Hoppe gets > 1 meaningful look at CF before the WC. Like a lot of people I have so much more confidence in our defense than our offense. And while I see the midfield as 75% of the issue, the CF spot remains worrisome. For all their chances, Zardes and Sarge have not proven to be reliable creators of opportunities. IMO Zardes is much better at holdup and distribution than he used to be, but I wouldn’t call him particularly good at it. (And I know there are people here who disagree with both halves of that sentence.) Sarge does just about everything well except the main job of a striker, and he is going through a real crisis on that issue. So Hoppe and others deserve looks. Pefok also deserves another look. If Dike regains some club form, I would like to see him get a ore looks as well.

    Maybe the replacement of Lletget with more attack-minded and attack-capable players will help Sarge and Zardes start to hit the back of the net, assuming GB keeps going with either or both. But given that they haven’t been tremendously productive, these other players deserve more looks IMO. This is particularly so because the selection problem is only going to get worse. It is looking like the Pulisic generation is the tip of the iceberg in terms of young talent, and some of it may be at CF. Going into WC in a year without a good understanding of today’s young strikers and their potential to contribute when the midfield is offensively functional, as new names rise to our attention in the interim, would be malpractice. You can’t treat that position (CF) as one in which you put a premium on avoiding turnovers. It is a risk and reward position. Without the risk you don’t get the reward.
     
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  11. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Highlights start about 40 seconds in

     
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  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I disagree about both Dike and Pefok.
    Both are clearly in the picture.

    Dike was out injured since the Gold Cup and only recently returned. So there wasn't even an option to call him up until the October window. Now that he's returned in MLS, he's back to his old tricks. I'll guarantee that he's called up to the USMNT again within 6 months.

    Pefok? He'll be back to.

    At forward we have an 18 year old MLS kid as our #1. He will be inconsistent. And folks are putting all of their eggs in the Pepi basket waaaaay too quickly. After that its question marks everywhere. I don't know if people realize this, but its been a long time since Matthew Hoppe has actually scored a goal in club soccer. So folks can criticize Sargent all they want, its not like these others in Europe are doing much better. Gioacchini hasn't scored a goal this season in LIgue 1.

    Our forward pool is so shallow, that we'll probably just go with the hot hand after Pepi. If Dike or Pefok or whomever is in good form, they'll be brought in.

    As Donald Rumsfeld once said......................
    “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”
     
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  13. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He still will be after this transfer though.
    And no,I don't like it.
     
  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    10 million Euro is about 12 million dollars. If true, the market has been set. Now we see where it goes from here.
     
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  15. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Of course with add ons/bonus’
     
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  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yeah, I have to imagine that if Dallas is settling for $12M, there's a decent sell on or achievable bonuses.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #392 Clint Eastwood, Oct 26, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2021
    Look at us: "Settling" for $12 million. :) :)

    That would be the record transfer for domestic MLS players. More than Alphonso Davies, who lest we forget was named to the FIFPro World Best XI last year.

    [Just as a point of comparison, Orlando reportedly turned down $10 million last year for Dike.]

    If the market is 12 million, instead of 20 million or something crazy.................then it'll be really interesting to see who is involved. Clubs like Ajax, etc. can do that easily.
     
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  18. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Supposedly the Stuggart report is untrue

     
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  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I mean, Davies had likely escalators up to like $18M or $22M or something like that.

    But yes, for an 18 year old striker who looks as good as he does ... I do expect the total sum to be higher than $12M once everything is included.
     
  20. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Final Davies transfer fee hit about 20 million due to performance objectives being met in first season.
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It appears the Stuttgart news was lost a little in translation. As always, Buzz is the man to follow when things start hitting the fan at FCD.
     
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  22. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pepe Reina agrees with this.
     
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  23. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I suspect that Davies, if he was transferring this year, would go for more than he did a couple of years ago. (I'm not talking about hindsight but his transfer, in today's market with MLS's growing rep for player development/young prospects without knowing that he would become a $77M player according to transfermkt).
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The optimist take is "we have several similar options at striker! More equivalent options than we have ever had!"
     
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  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It seems the entire world is "interested" in Ricardo Pepi. So far we've heard about very few actually offers. Sampdoria.
     
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