Ziegler unhappy in London

metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

I hope this doesn't mean anything towards him leaving. This kid is IMO the brightest player we've had this season.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com...Ziegler+unhappy+in+London&channel=Premiership

Maybe as he's got some time to rest because of his hamstring he can go visit family or have them come to him. I know what it's like moving away from home at that age and it is hard but it gets easier and easier as you get used to it and as you grow up.

THFC1 · Jan 23, 2005

He is injured now for about 6 weeks so hopefully he will be allowed home for a couple of days. I'm sure Frank will allow that as he understands what it is like to be away from home at a young age & has experience with younger players while at PSV.

sendorange · Jan 23, 2005

It's an fluffed up report, they stole that quote from part of an interview Ziegler did in Swiss about a fortnight ago and tried to make it look like something new and controversial.

http://www.nzz.ch/2005/01/16/sp/page-articleCIRB7.html

metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

My Swiss sucks. Anyone get the gist of it?

dashiel · Jan 23, 2005

with having to know 4 languages i suspect most people swiss isn't that good

i hope this doesn't break the rules, but here's a systran translation of the german:

In the sharp light the Prime Minister League

The Youngsters Reto Ziegler and Philippe Senderos makes
advertisement in England

Of Stephan Ramming

It is the play of the plays on this Saturday in London.
Tottenham Hotspur, seventh in the Prime Minister League and since nine
portions ungeschlagen, receive to the White Heart Lane in the
northeast of London Leader Chelsea. Hours before the play are already
roads and Pubs around for months the White Heart Lane sold off filled
with expectation-glad spectators, devotional objects are offered for
sale, last tickets on the black market ergattert. A large day for the
football-crazy Londoner. And a large day for the number 16 in the
Dress Tottenhams, Reto Ziegler, the young Swiss, who celebrates today
Sunday its 19.**Geburtstag. It is changed in the 67.**Minute for
tactical reasons, and it loses its crew against the superior Leader
0:2 but when Ziegler applied in September of the hard tower to London,
nobody would probably have believed that it would be on this day in
the start formation of Tottenham.

Two days beforehand. Attendance in "track the Lounge", the training
area of Tottenham, somewhere in the northeast of London. First
kilometer from the center removes nothing interprets fifty on the fact
that in Chigwell, where city frays the filter million long into the
patch carpet of the dye between city and country Reto Ziegler follows
here since September of its work as an occupation soccer player. Cosy
Straes, at which fox and hare say themselves good night, leads to a
barrier, which a safety man guards. After the intentions of the
visitor for louder were found, then however the view makes clear on
the parking lot that one did not err into a remote reformatory for
heavy-drawable. In that metallic shape of Aston Martin, Bentley,
lobsters, Ferrari, Porsche and other companion wait some patient
millions for the ignition keys of its operating owners. Enrich owners.
Football professional.

The future of arsenal

The same picture is offered to the visitor also in Colney,
where arsenal London far in the northwest maintains an enormous
football Campus. Only deactivate there not Keane, Kanouté, Mendes or
Naybet their bodies, but Henry, Pires, Campbell, Bergkamp and CO and
Philippe Senderos. For one and a half years the soon 20-year old
Geneva is with the "Gunners" under contract. Before it is led by a
press lady in space number 15 to the interview, arsenal manager Arsène
Wenger asks to the desk discussion. About thirty journalists place
questions to the events the week, the Frenchman answer in the charming
chatting tone and praise finally also Senderos, to which the future
belongs and which patience must have.

After its championship Début in the start formation two weeks ago ago
Senderos slips after the recovery of Sol Campbell now again on the
player bank. "I accept my role", say Senderos in interview cab number
15, he much praise got and know that its time will come. Also in the
first year with arsenal, coined/shaped by violations, it actually
doubted no second. Senderos speaks calmly and clarified like an
experienced professional. "sometimes miss I mean family, the
colleagues, my friend - however I am here, over to operate", say
Senderos drying. With work Swiss U-17-Europameister with Spanish
roots, which played with Servette Geneva with Reto Ziegler with the
juniors, means to above hold daily "the heading" to learn of arsenal
of world star and to improve constantly smallest details. Four million
Franconia the interior defender arsenal is to have been worth. The
characters are well that the investment for arsenal will be worthwhile
itself briefly or long over. But the crew bus waits now after Bolton,
where for Senderos the back-up bank is available. The press lady
instructs as politely as determines the departure.

Tottenhams Shootingstar

Tottenhams sport boss franc Arnesen has more time. To the
change in last spring of the PSV Eindhoven from Holland into the Prime
Minister League loads the Dane into "track the Lounge" to the
discussion into his office. Also the performances Zieglers would have
surprised it, say the former Danish national player on the question,
why young Swiss is used to so short time regularly in the first crew.
"a young player from the foreign country needs normally two years to
arrive over in the Prime Minister League into the proximity of the
first crew." Arnesen makes a break and leans contently back. Finally
it was it, the Ziegler still during the U-19-EM brought to sign the
contract with Tottenham. "Reto however needed one month, in order to
give its beginning in the first crew. One month!" Arnesen strains the
index finger into air and draws back to a Eloge over its obligation.
Its physical operational readiness level, the learning will, the
extraordinary gift to want daily to optimize its physical
prerequisites all this contributed to the fact that Ziegler to time is
located in the start list of Tottenham. "that is a large surprise",
says Arnesen. "I believe even, Reto am the largest surprise in the
entire Prime Minister League season. That actually Shootingstar."

One is surprised also in Switzerland, because Zieglers transfer from
the grass hopper club to London did not run without background noises.
Planned the change was only in January 2005. When however Alain
violonist Ziegler began only rarely, suddenly everything went fast. At
the end of August Ziegler in office one discharged. "as Reto no more
did not play, forced I the change", says Arnesen. "the autumn should
extend the Angewoehnungszeit for it." Into office went in the
consequence with the dismissal of violonist and the resignation from
president Thomas Gulich all more drunter and more drueber. Ziegler
mauserte itself in the same time to the Prime Minister League player.

"Chapeau", says violonists today to Zieglers performance. The reasons,
why he let Ziegler in the back-up bank scorch, it may not remember any
longer EN détail. He speaks of the hard competition by Kim Jaggy and
Christoph Spycher on the left side and of it that Ziegler used a
break. Also different reasons are assumed. Zieglers signature with
Tottenham is to have annoyed violonists, it is connections of
violonist brother, who is player mediator Nicolas violonist, to
Tottenham to give, from duepierten intermediaries and obscure transfer
totals the speech. Indication for it is the corresponding predicate of
franc Arnesen and Zieglers manager, its father René that against one
million Swiss Franconia flowed on the hard tower. Office managing
director Urs Wyss against it speaks of a third of this total. "we
received the formation remuneration from 250**000 Franconia as well as
for instance to 50**000 Franconia for the premature change", say to
Wyss. where the difference remained, want nobody to know.

In the sump of the Business

About such questions Ziegler cannot worry meanwhile. It is on
the training workstation behind "track the Lodge". Chefcoach Martin
Jol lets the master begin against the substitutes. Ziegler is located
in the left centre zone of the formation, which will begin against
Chelsea. The fight for the launch sites is decided, yet the players go
to the boundaries. Also Ziegler. With a precise heading ball
collecting main into the run of Robbie Keane, the Mittelstuermer of
the Irish national team, belongs to the Youngster the most beautiful
scene of the exercise play. Then is conclusion. The hand of a Security
man puts on the shoulder of the visitor. Watch unwanted. On the return
then nevertheless still the meeting with an old acquaintance.
Thimotheé Atouba, gone in the summer from the FC Basel to Tottenham,
completes rehablitation exercises with a Physiotherapeutin. Its face
is drawn of effort. It is marvelous in London, says Atouba. Feel
somewhat lonely it only sometimes. In the background the motorway
rushes.

In the Lodge meanwhile an army crowd of medium people appeared itself.
The play of Saturday throws its shadows. Incessantly mobile phones,
cameras cheep adjusted, notes are checked, rumors negotiate. Football
is a desired commodity, each picture, each record weighs gold. Reto
Ziegler emerges sometime. Left, cautiously. Clearly, a photo is not a
problem, says Ziegler. The diamond in its left ear flashes in the flat
January sun. Running by responsible persons flachsen, for player
colleagues make messages. The whole Drumherum is more largely, faster
and more complicated than in Switzerland, says Ziegler later. "however
at the workstation it concerns the same as everywhere: around
football."

"suffered like a dog"

In Zieglers soberness likes also the reason for its much
admired appearances in the sharp searchlight beam of the Prime
Minister League stage to be situated. "the legs are important, the
crucial however are the heading", say Ziegler. All its coaches certify
also a pronounced will, a mental strength, which took the
U-17-Europameister off apart from its physical and fussballerischen
prerequisites already early from others to Ziegler. "as soccer players
I am still for a long time not finished trained. As a man however
already ", Ziegler says. For the fact it was crucial that he already
left Geneva and his family with fourteen years, in order to play in
Zurich with the office juniors. "I had down", look the Tottenham
professional back. That made it early grown-up. "it was not simple
also for us", says Zieglers nut/mother Lea, which visits their son now
during the first time in London the everyday life relieved and besides
an English course. "at that time Reto always said, he did not have
homesickness. Today I know that he sometimes suffered like a dog."

Still the life is faraway the homeland not always easy, says Ziegler.
He inhabits a vierzimmerwohnung in a park-similar system for
Gutbetuchte not far from the training area. There it gives not much
more than the peace of the golden cage. It misses Zurich, the
colleagues and its brothers and sisters, says Ziegler. "except
football there is here nothing. But exactly because of the football am
I also here. It is good, if I have nothing different one in the
heading." Ziegler grinst. He seems to know, what needs it, in order to
achieve large targets. Then he telephones with his nut/mother. It is
to fetch it. That it cannot drive yet auto, is the latter, which
differentiates it from an adult.

Reto Ziegler and Tottenham

Reto Ziegler changed in passed September of the grass hopper
club to the Londoner Prime Minister League association Tottenham
Hotspur. In July the signed contract designated Zieglers change only
for January 2005, but after the 18-Jaehrige had been used only rarely
in the hard tower by the coach at that time Alain violonist,
Tottenhams sport boss franc Arnesen got it prematurely to the White
Heart Lane. The former French national coach Jacques Santini granted
Ziegler already after few weeks of applications with the first crew.
From it also the dutchman Martin Jol, for November with good results
chief coach "track", did not move away. In the championship Reto
Ziegler apart from five exchanges was already nine times in the start
list.

Tottenham Hotspur is beside arsenal and Chelsea the third Londoner
large club. In the last years Tottenham was not able to keep up
however any longer with the competition to tie let alone to successes
in the past - the appropriate attempts failed pitifully in each case.

As Santinis predecessor Glenn Hoddle became all coaches of the passed
six years prematurely to dismiss. The former French nation Alco oh
indicated private reasons "after some lost plays" for its resignation
at the beginning of November of the last yearly. Like already
Christian's large, coach in the FC Basel, with its short commitment in
London experienced had, prevails to the White Heart Lane a
particularly rauer wind of success (RAM.)

Philippe Senderos and arsenal

Really Madrid, Bavaria Munich, Juventus turin, Manchester
United and other one - all European large clubs wanted to take
Philippe Senderos under contract, after in May 2002 that became at
that time 17-jaehrige Geneva in Denmark with Switzerland
U-17-Europameister. The largegrown defender changed finally as a
master player with Servette in July 2003 to arsenal London. There
however soon violation pitch overtook it: After complaints in the back
a foot violation followed. Senderos missed the whole season and
returned only in last May with Swiss U-21-Nationalmannschaft at the
European championship in Germany to the match happening.

In current the season Senderos fought itself again into the proximity
of the first crew and is after Campbell and Cygan of third interior
defenders. Senderos owed also recently the first two applications in
the championship to a violation Campbells.

Arsenal belongs to the best associations of Europe. Since the
Frenchman Arsène Wenger 1996 had taken over the "Gunners", the sporty
success curve pointed constantly upward in the Highbury (championship
2004, 2002, 1998) owing to players such as Thierry Henry, Dennis
Bergkamp, Fredrik Ljungberg, Sol Campbell, Patrick Vieira or Robert
Pires to years of the Agonie. Also economically arsenal is in a stable
situation. The budget of approximately 200 million Franconia is
balanced, besides the new emirate stage promises security for the
future (RAM.)
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metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

I think Arnesen is actually Yoda...

"as Reto no more did not play, forced I the change"

I think I understood some of that lol...

jumhed · Jan 23, 2005

Read Zieglers interview in the latest Spurs Monthly. He's lived away from home since he was 14. He's used to it and loves London.

People are always trying to stir up ********.

metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

Funnily enough I was going to go and grab that Spurs monthly just because I saw Ziegler's in it. I might have to go and have a look next time I'm in WHSmiths.

metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

http://www.spurs.co.uk/article.asp?hlid=251609

Good news. I want to take that lad out for a pint. Who else is coming?

Nico Limmat · Jan 23, 2005

sendorange said:

It's an fluffed up report...
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Yes, it is. A bunch of nonsense...

jumhed said:

Read Zieglers interview in the latest Spurs Monthly. He's lived away from home since he was 14. He's used to it and loves London.

People are always trying to stir up ********.
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yep

THFC1 · Jan 23, 2005

http://www.spurs.co.uk/article.asp?hlid=251609

He talks about the injury in this link but towards the bottom he say:

"The club has looked after me well and I was surprised to see some inaccurate reporting that I'm homesick and not liking London.

"In actual fact, I said the good thing about living in Chigwell and being close to Spurs Lodge is that I can concentrate on my football.

"I've also got my mother here with me at the moment, which is a huge support. I'm thoroughly enjoying my time at Tottenham and the club has made me feel very welcome."

metropolis2k · Jan 23, 2005

Beat you to it!

THFC1 · Jan 23, 2005

Damn never saw that, but i saved others the bother of having to click on the link

chriswalk27 · Jan 23, 2005

That is good to read, I was starting to think things might be falling apart for Spurs like they always do near the end of the year.

Lets just hope he can get back on the pitch in a couple of weeks and keep up his good play.

LedleybetterthanSol · Jan 23, 2005

I hate this sort of fabricated crap!

Danners9 · Jan 24, 2005

Annoying innit? a monkey with a typewriter.