Yanks Abroad Flavors of the Week: 2020/2021

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  1. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Miazga is also a leader, which is important on a squad of pups. He's an in your face Concacaf guy. I take him over McKenzie this cycle at least.
     
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  2. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    He was the shield in that U20 WC where we came one well taken penalty away from beating the eventual champions in the Quarterfinals. He's one of the few prime age players that's always been reasonably good for this cycle (and in retrospect, I would've preferred him vs Omar in that Couva clincher four years ago).

    He never developed into the talent I thought he might, in retrospect, a little too limited athletically and technically, but he's still a solid traditional old school CB, and fits in just fine in a group of five.
     
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  3. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    He's just not a top 5 CB in the pool right now. I'd take five guys over him, so I wouldn't call him in. He's playing like ----. He isn't garbage, he just isn't playing well. I get that JAB isn't either, but he's also a decade into his career of ups and downs and I flat out trust him in home and comfy games much much more than I trust McKenzie. Richards is and always was better than McKenzie, period, and Robinson and Miazga are playing better too, so for now McKenzie's odd man out. If he turns it around as winter sets in, I'll consider him in January or Feb, I'm definitely not taking him in November.
     
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Dropping a couple of stones could help CCV's career.

    I hope CP is on the renewals list.

     
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  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #6005 IndividualEleven, Oct 25, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2021
    Looks like Reynolds is 100% out at Roma. Jose is looking to unload. Lukaku. DeBruyne. Salah. Bonucci. It's not a death knell to leave Mouriinho.

    Cannon got the start at right mid. Europe is turning our rightbacks!
     
  6. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll find out soon if Brooks is even healthy for November.
     
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  7. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Newcastle is going to make some Big Dick moves for players on both Chelsea, Man U, and Man City on the fringes. Guys like Raheem Sterling, Donny Van De Beek, and yes.......Christian Pulisic are gonna come to mind this winter.
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frankly Im very happy about it. Its best thing for him.
     
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  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like Chelsea is going to want to recoup what they paid for him and that's going to be more than what Newcastle wants to pay. They have about $200 million to spend and need help everywhere.
     
  10. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Unreasonable people complain that Gregg hasn't called up Joe Scally but he's barely even played professional soccer"

    Joe Scally:
    [​IMG]

    Lots of guys some people have been fine with not being called in making the top 10...
    1. Scally
    3. Busio
    6. Richards
    7. Konrad
    8. Miazga
    (yes I did leave off 9. Sargent 10. Green just because I agree with those, what of it?)

    Meanwhile some other people just love dudes in that 90 minute range, Steffen, Hoppe...
     
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  11. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some of these players were making their moves to their new clubs during the September window, but generally I think most if the players you listed will be called in November, if Miazga has passed McKenzie. Scally probably passes Moore and comes as backup at RB/LB. Cannon and Vines getting healthy and playing will make things interesting though. Konrad might depend on whether Pulisic recovers. Worth noting all these players other than Scally have been called up by Gregg....
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anything happen between September and November?

    Oh what happened with Konrad the last time Pulisic was out?

    Never said the others had never been called up before...
     
  13. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Busio & Richards got callups lol
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay so just not any of the guys currently 1-7-8-9-10 in total minutes in top 5 leagues... seems totally normal!
     
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  15. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's been litigated over and over, but you said already you agree with leaving Sargent and Green, so it seems you agree that not all top 5 minutes are created equal
    1) these are Scally's only professional minutes, so he could have only reasonably been called in October, but if he was going to be the backup to Dest/Robinson it's probable that BMG requested he stay because he is practically their only fit fullback. I hope he gets called this time.
    2) Miazga and Konrad both play very specific roles for their clubs and those roles are different than how we would ask them to play. Miazga's team plays out of a bunker and Konrad doesn't play defense in Marseille's system. They can both be useful and should get called on again, I hope they do. November would be good because you might actually get to train as a team instead of a 3 game window.

    It's a good thing that we can bring in players depending on the match up instead of anyone with a pulse and 100 mins in Europe, this is progress.
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    The whole Scally argument is silly.
    810 minutes means what............9 games?
    9 professional games.

    And when Berhalter was choosing rosters for his previous WCQing windows..........................it was obviously less than 9 professional games. They could be counted on one hand.

    Joe Scally will be called in. Such a mindless argument.

    Berhalter has already started three 18 year olds in WCQers over the last two windows. Pepi, Musah, and Reyna. I actually think part of the issue here is that our USMNT roster was so young (average age 22 against Costa Rica), that Gregg called in some veterans to balance the squad. Guys who had been on trips to difficult road WCQers in the past.

    BY the way, I actually think its fine to watch Konrad de la Fuente right now and think he's not ready for the national team. He seems very raw. Just because a player is getting minutes in a top 5 league doesn't mean he's ready to be called up to a WCQer.
     
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  17. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    No way to guarentee that Scally will be called in. GGG is as random as they come in regards to team selection.
     
  18. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    I would have called him in last camp but not calling him in for November would be bad.
     
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  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is key. Without knowing any conversations between BMG and GB it's all guesswork on why he wasn't called in. He was also rested by BMG right after that. So ... he's playing great but doesn't have many first division games, is one of BMG's healthy outside backs and the biggest reason he has so many games so quickly, he may have been tired and as we've seen with Cowell and Clark players that age do get worn out. Could add that maybe adding one 18 year old per window is the the max that Berhalter is willing to do. So Reyna then Pepi then Musah and next Scally? I'd say he has deserved to be called up and the next window should but if he's playing this good and doesn't by January window then I'll join in the pitchfork group as the current possible reasonable excuses will be gone by then.
     
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  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Busio, Miazga, Adams(cup) could see action today.
     
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm not sure if we posted this. Luca de la Torre from this past weekend.
    Unfortunately his team lost again.
     
  22. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tessman, might play today.
     
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  23. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Or maybe the fact that Julian Green has more minutes than Tyler Adams might mean that "total minutes this season in a Top 5 league" is a dumb stat to be using?

    But yes, please get yourself worked up over it like a four year old.
     
  24. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Chelsea's waiting for that, they're going to keep waiting. I just can't see a team paying upwards of GBP 50M for Pulisic given his injury history right now.

    Newcastle would be interesting given everything occurring there. Personally, I've long said that Leicester is a spot that I think would be a great fit for Pulisic. Europe-level team where I think he would be a real focal point. Rodgers likes playing more direct and doesn't mind playing counter-attacking soccer. I feel like that type of team is one where Pulisic (if healthy, of course) would be a player that Leicester would feel like they could build around him.
     
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  25. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    #6025 Maximum Optimal, Oct 26, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2021
    Looks like Busio will be playing the 6 today. With the other mids fairly attacking minded. Should be interesting.

    Venezia are at home against the last place team in Serie A. This would be the one match to try this kind of attacking minded midfield.

    The last few matches they've used Vaca or Ampadu as the 6, or gone to a double pivot. Vaca is out injured and Ampadu starts on the bench.

    Gets even more interesting. Salernitana starts the 38 year old Franck Ribery at attacking mid. Will be interesting to see how the kid handles the old fox.
     

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