Monday 25 Oct 2021

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Oct 25, 2021.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's name the badge:
    AFC.png
     
  2. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's A Really Busy Coat of Arms FC
     
    SccrDon repped this.
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bluecat82 repped this.
  4. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    #6 Brian in Boston, Oct 25, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2021
    Altrincham FC. I've always thought the sheaves and pulley wheel in their badge looked - from a distance or at small size - like a pair of hands and a ball. Of course, that's just the 'keeper in me.
     
  5. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    MLS is really failing in NY. I know this has nothing to do with NYCFC but one comment that I always keep on seeing is that NYRB is failing because of the "NY" in the name but that if they change the name to "NJ" people will care. I don't know where they get that idea but it sure made me LOL.

    I really don't know what MLS can do with these two teams. It is almost impossible because of politics for NYCFC to get a stadium done in the place they have been looking at. They can move to another location but then we will get the similar comments we see of NYRB of "they aren't in NYC so I won't support them". Plus there is also the fact that both Red Bull and CFG don't treat their MLS teams like they are suppose to. It's like if they forget they exist. NY and its surrounding areas are loaded with pro teams from other sports so that definitely doesn't help, IMO. Maybe moving one team out of NY to a place that doesn't have that many pro teams would help?
     
    footballfantatic and AZUL GALAXY repped this.
  6. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winner, winner ... Altrincham FC from England's National League (5th Tier)
     
  7. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #9 GunnerJacket, Oct 25, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2021
    I know at least one small part of it is that neither team is uniquely a New York side. Instead of either being an East coast counterpart to, say, LAFC, the two Gotham sides are essentially satellite franchises of a larger soccer corporation. That's tainted the product to some fans and makes it a different selling job to the populace versus the ground-up efforts of LAFC, Cincy, and others.
     
  8. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Would it change anything if someone else takes over? I really think it wouldn't. RB has been successful, sportwise, winning several SS but falling short of lifting the MLS Cup. That hasn't changed anything when it comes to support for that team. NYCFC is in the same boat.
     
    jaykoz3 repped this.
  9. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    NYFC has been more successful on attendance, at least the first few years, but interest have been waning the last few years. NY is really a difficult market, and front offices have been lackluster too.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lazy front office, an underwhelming team, even though they can win handsomely at times, and a terrible (some would say humiliating) decision to play matches at Red Bull Arena.

    I don't think being part of the Man City group has tainted the product, thanks largely to the fans indifference about Man City. It's not like we're solely in the business of being a feeder team
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Maybe, if you mean the mayor. DeBlasio has been something of a disaster for the city and will be replaced by Adams shortly. I don't know if Adams has a position on a soccer stadium in the Bronx but if he's in favor of it, it's a lot more likely to happen.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well this old Tweet is promising.
     
    POdinCowtown repped this.
  13. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just to note for the uninformed, PO'd is a Trump partisan, and the day after Adams takes office, PO'd will consider him a "disaster for the city" also.
     
    TheJoeGreene repped this.
  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Well, not to make this overly political but Adams is a former police officer whose policies will be closer to Bloomberg or Giuliani's, than DeBlasio's. That will be good for the city generally, especially getting crime under control.

    Whether that includes a stadium for NYC or not is open to question but if CFG is willing to pay for it, I think Adams is the sort of guy who could get it done over neighborhood opposition.
     
    Egbert Sousé repped this.
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crime is under control, mainly through tightening up on gun control. The Supreme Court may put the kybosh on that.
     
  16. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Huh? As you note there is an upcoming SCOTUS case on NYC gun control laws. But that has nothing to do with the big increase in crime. DeBlasio got rid of "stop and frisk" which took a lot of guns off the street. Eliminating cash bail for most offenses has been a godsend for criminals. Thus the stories you see about people who have been arrested a dozen or more times this year.

    Bringing it back to soccer, the city is unlikely to subsidize a new stadium for NYCFC. But if the owners are willing to put up the money for it, a mayor who wants it can cut through a lot of red tape and expedite it. In the tweet above Adams wanted it in Brooklyn, where he was borough president. He may be supportive of the Bronx now.
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the crime stats suggest that crime is down on 2020 and gun arrests are up considerably. It may not be down to pre- pandemic levels yet but it's headed that way.
     
  18. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYCFC will get a stadium eventually. Remember the exhausting bi-polar process to get DC United's stadium built. It took what 12-15 years?
     
  19. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Yeah, I think NYCFC will eventually have their own stadium in the city. The main impediments to getting one built are financing and regulatory hoops. CFG are rich enough to pay for the stadium and fill all the various outstretched hands. If a mayor makes something a priority and the public is onboard, he'll get it through the various agency approvals and judges probably won't stand in the way during the inevitable court challenges.
     
    footballfantatic repped this.
  20. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    Yep. At least from 2004, and Audi Field opened in July 2018.
     
    RafaLarios and footballfantatic repped this.

Share This Page