You 8-2 See One Team Score 9 Times- The Other Teams Thread

I feel like the only chance Ronaldo still has to win something is by joining PSG when Mbappe leaves.

Probably regretting this United move already.

 

Yeah I don’t think there is a coach that can fix that.

They are too imbalanced

 

I disagree. Ole's tactics is just awful. Yes, they still not as good as City or Liverpool, but they definetely better than this but its up to coach to draw lines, create tactics and make, for example, Liverpool's evening very tricky even if they still would have won it.

 

Well yes, thats the pointi i agree.Greenwood /Ronaldo doesn't track down, Bruno also problmematic. A lot of problems but yesterday i saw some horrible tactic choices. start with 2 midfielders in the middle horrible idea against city or liverpoool, or chelsea. Alot of time 2 vs 3, a lot of spaces.

Maguire overrated, but still in general iMO this squad can play better but you need some real top coach. Definetely they stild would have lost against Liverpool, but when you literaly didnt prepared team and playing 'on opponents strenghts' so 0-5 its 'normal' result.

 

Agree to disagree with you on Maguire.

 

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Manures' defence and especially midfield just aren't that good IMO, Maguire is far far too slowwwww, and is overrated in the EPL, Matic, Fred, McTominay , no

 

That's not how rivalries are defined but, fwiw, Man Utd still finished above Liverpool in the table half the time since Sir Alex departed.

But yeah, a 120+ year rivalry doesn't end just because one of the teams finish in 6th place one year.

 

I’ve seen much much worse Man U sides play much much better than this. Sure the team is unbalanced but IMO Sols is the main culprit. If the players think they are better than they are and it’s the reason they are underperforming, Conte would get a lot more out of this team.

 

McTominay and Matic have looked good in other settings/with other teams around them in the past. But obviously they can't be left so isolated against fast, really good opponents.

Man Utd spent money in all the wrong places last summer but even with what they have now they could be way better with a manager that knows what he's doing.

 

I remember watching some big Inter x Milan matches in the 2000s and enjoying them so much.

Then, there was a decade of Clasicos where it seemed like the fate of the world was at stake.

There are also some derbies in Brazil I have always enjoyed a lot, especially Palmeiras X Corinthians.

I never felt like this about English derbies. Don't really know why. Every time I watch Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, and especially City playing, I just wish both teams lost, lol.

I mean City has a stellar squad and I can't help but go meh watching all their games. Same for Chelsea. Liverpool can be fun sometimes and Arsenal used to be a good team to watch.

But there's a barrier for me regarding English clubs, and maybe it's their fault.

 

When you look at City Liverpool and Chelsea you see layers that are ready to work hard and run most of the time. Aguero that didn't like to do as much was worked on, But in Man Utd you have Ronaldo, Fernandez, Pogba Greenwood/Martial who will rather not chase players around but have others work for them.
I also think it will be hard to accommodate Ronaldo and Fernandez in the same team, Portugal had to drop Bruno after a few games at the Euro. Bruno a great player but occupies the space of an attacker. So in many games Man Utd end up playing 4-2-4 or even 4-1-5. I am not sure Ronaldo is the ideal player for that team. Sure he scores but they have a lot of imbalance

I also felt they would have done better playing a 4-4-2 defensive yesterday, drop Greenwood for Pogba and match Liverpool in the middle

 

It is difficult to compare rivalries because the only people that truly appreciate how big a rivalry is are the fans of one of the two clubs involved. But then of course you can't use the same people to assess the magnitude of a different rivalry, so there is no frame of reference.

 

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if City tricked United into signing CR7. lol

Brilliant if that's the case.

 

Interesting view, IMO Matic looked good with Chelsea, i never for one day thought he looked anything but slow with Manure, as for McTominay, never seen anything particularly interesting, a battler but that's about it

 

Yep, was just talking bout myself here. Pretty sure those matches mean a lot to a lot of people.

 

Obviously you have not watched Portugal last couple of games and manure last few games obviously yesterday the whole team was not at the races but Ronaldo and Bruno have been building an understanding

 

Madrid also had an unbalanced squad with too many luxury players under Benitez, we played four attack minded midfielders against Barca that year and got battered 4-0 or something?

Zidane comes in, drops James for Casemiro and we start winning multiple champions leagues.

United are just badly coached. You can hide it against poor teams when they let you sit back and counter, but the top teams have good players and a good coach and they will exploit even minor failings.

If you watch the Liverpool goals, you will see that in the first stage of the attack United have a 2 or three man advantage where the ball is. But they don’t systematically cut passing lanes or force the player on the ball to get his head down, so when the ball emerges from the failed press they are left with not just one free Liverpool player in their own box, but two or three.

If you look at their first two goals, if Liverpool didn’t pass to the player who scored, then there was another player free in an equally good position who could have scored instead.

It’s a complete shambles, professional athletes are doing schoolboy stuff like getting drawn to the ball and leaving players goalside of them, and it’s down to how they are set up.

 

Maybe United and Barcelona should do a manager swap ?

 

Barca will need to hire Big Sam in a few months if they keep dropping points like they are now.

 

Chelsea were pretty terrible under Lampard. Tuchel comes in and they win the CL without even having a consistent scorer in the team. Utd mostly had sub-par squads during Moyes and LVG era. But Mou and Ole had pretty good squads. They need a good DM otherwise the squad has a lot of quality. Hope they hire the wrong coach after Ole gets sacked as well. [emoji23]