Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Maybe FIFA can implement a 1 match per week maximum per player
     
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  2. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Chelsea don't need to maximize his value, and their situation right now should be some evidence of the value of their attacking depth, which they will be leaning on for the next few weeks at least.

    He does not have to go crazy to represent value to Chelsea to avoid getting shown the door at this club, he just needs to be somewhat available and somewhat productive. Which he has done before.

    This doesn't follow -- lots of players at top clubs aren't "going crazy" via their production, but still represent value to their club, and thus stick around.

    Hope all you want! That doesn't seem really anchored to reality, this is why these conversations tend to verge toward myopic in YA.

    To me, it seems like CP is probably hoping to get healthy, and to keep competing for trophies & making his money at the top club for which he has been a constant contributor when fit. The idea that he would, from his current perspective, find the grass greener at the likes of Everton or Newcastle seems ridiculous... he's just trying to get fit and contribute to Chelsea, would be my guess.

    But as always, who knows. Guess we'll see.
     
  3. ebbro

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    Jun 10, 2005
    Kinda like Ruben Loftus Cheek. Wait, he's still there.
     
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  4. bct81

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    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get that the injury history is a cause for concern ... but it seems like the assembled BS audience here has concluded he is already going to get sold?

    Don't you think the thread of his demise is just slightly an overreaction?
     
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  5. laxcoach

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    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
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    Wait, wut? Over reaction?

    Never here, sir. Hubris never gets in the way.
     
  6. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Damn, didn't even realize Mount have 0 goal and 1 assist after 10 games and over 600 minutes played.

    Even the Chelsea faithful fanboys is turning against their golden boy.

    Sports is brutal, it's what have you done for me today.
     
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  7. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
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    Take away corner kicks and he's giving the same sort of production as last season. To be fair, nobody will find it easy to score regularly in this Tuchel system.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Chelsea are scoring less this year than they had at this point last year. And Mount only had 1 goal in the 1st 8 games in 20-21, but that's still not awesome.

    I haven't looked at the difference in competition they faced to start last season, but it looks like a 20 goal start vs. 16 this year. CP can come back and bang a few goals or assists and become the fan fave!
     
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  9. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
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    He will never be a fan favorite there. Not productive enough to overcome his lack of Englishness. Unlike Mason Mount, who is finally becoming not English enough to overcome his lack of productiveness.
     
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  10. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    Per BBC pre-match write up: “Christian Pulisic is nearing a return to training following an ankle injury but won't feature on Saturday.”
     
  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Dunno. If CP stayed healthy and put up good numbers regularly, my guess is he'd be pretty popular.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    But the problem is no one is going to match the salary Chelsea pays him. Not with his injury history.

    And even if Chelsea are ready to sell him for $40 million (losing close to $30 million), if CP refuses the move because he'd be making half the money, they cannot force him out.

    At most they can do what HSV did with Wood: send him to train with the U23, freeze him out of everything, keep him training alone, etc. But that only has effect with the weak-minded. Like George Constanza when they boarded the door to his office, Bobby found a way in, always.
     
  13. FC Tallavana

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    Jul 1, 2004
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    MLS clubs would match his current salary. They're paying Vela about as much when you consider taxes. The transfer fee though...
     
  14. Noriega7

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    Dec 27, 2017
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    He will not get Chelsea type wages which is reportedly around 150k unless he goes to MLS, but maybe 100k a week...

    If Chelsea brings in top tiers attackers next summer and tells CP to look for a team, will he really rather tell them no just to collect the bigger wage?

    I think someone would offer 100k with a transfer fee of around 30M pound..Chelsea bough him for around 55M pound...That's a significant lost but his value will not rise if he's not playing regularly with an expiring contract.

    He doesn't strike me as the type who would rather collect his paycheck even if he's told he's about 4th choice among attackers.
     
  15. bct81

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    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    talk about a Saturday tale ....

    CP not playing .... Chelsea w/o him have logged 5 so far on Norwich - Sargent ineffective ... and now Norwich with a red.
     
  16. DCU1984

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    Jan 15, 2009
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    Right as I've said all along forget the foreign wankers and put out a proper English side.

    Works against championship level competition at least.
     
  17. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    I guess Mount is back to God Like status among the Chelsea faithful.

    CHO has really taken his chances.....Not good for CP...He's gonna have to really hit the ground running once fit....He's gonna need to produce right away.
     
  18. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Unless his post-career plans are to do nothing that earns money and burn through his savings fairly quickly, most people in his situation would choose a change of scenery if it means regular PT. A million dollars isn't a million dollars when it's the 20th or 30th million. If he stays and sits, it will probably be because Chelsea doesn't mine wasting money.
     
  19. Magikfute

    Magikfute Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Lancaster, PA
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    DC United
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    United States
    He can’t get regular playing time anywhere if he’s injured this frequently.
     
  20. ChrisSSBB

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    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    This Norwich game would have been great for Pulisic to return. Like a shooting gallery in last 20 minutes with Krul the busiest guy for Norwich. Krul saves Mount’s not very good PK. But, Krul off the line too early, Mount retakes it and makes it 6-0.
     
  21. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
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    Cho is a very good young winger and always looks good in space and isolated against a defender. Norwhich simply let him do his thing.

    He struggles trying to play out of midfield against a good press and trying to break down a low block.

    I don't think Tuchel trusts him against good competition yet.
     
  22. DCU1984

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    Jan 15, 2009
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    Clearly Mount reads big soccer. Secures his hat trick.
     
  23. FC Tallavana

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    Jul 1, 2004
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    Made this post last night. Looked at fixtures for today after. Knew that it would not age well.
     
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  24. Suyuntuy

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    Jul 16, 2007
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  25. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Mount just trolling me at this point.
     
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