Arriola at Left Back

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  1. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont like Arriola as an attacker because he isnt skilled enough...his touch isnt good enough and he just bogs down everything atttack-wise, in my opinion.

    But I do recognize he has a tremendous work rate and approach to competing.

    I wonder why he hasnt been tried as a wingback.

    The USMNT has a long tradition of doing that. Right back is pretty stacked...but left back behind jedi isnt.

    I think arriola could make a great left back.

    Anyone else agree?
     
  2. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Moving into defense isn’t unusual for older midfielders. However, he would be behind Jedi, Bello, and Scally at minimum
     
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  3. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't hate it. Would need to happen at the club level IMO
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone can play left back.
     
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  5. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Ah, those were the days
     
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  6. Eldinter

    Eldinter Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he was doing this for his club, then it'd be worth a look. But there's more to soccer than hustle. Arriola would struggle with positioning, maintaining the offside line etc. because he's never had an extended run at the position. He'd also be on the "wrong" side and he's poor with his left foot. That would limit his contributions going forward even further.
     
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  7. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Vines, now that he's training again in Belgium.

    We have other left backs coming up the pipeline.
    Hell, Jonathan Gomez if he commits to us.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kellyn Acosta is playing left- back for the Rapids.
     
  9. saxman

    saxman Member

    Nov 12, 2005
    Frederick,Maryland
    I'm all for using Arriola at left behind.
     
  10. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Why do we want more than one left back?
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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  12. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    And the American who plays left back at his club
     
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  13. jspsam

    jspsam Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Feb 23, 2019
    Boulder, CO
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #13 jspsam, Nov 1, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2021
    Acosta really only fills-in at wing back for Colorado when others are out. Lucas Esteves is currently the first choice at the position, and Robin Fraser's played Trusty there a few times. Kellyn's been getting some extended time at WB on both sides lately because of fixture congestion, along with on-and-off injuries suffered by Rosenberry (usually plays at RCB or RWB) and Galván (typically either wing back position). Acosta himself picked up a knock against Portland a few matches back, but he's expected to recover for the final game of the season this coming weekend.

    Assuming everyone is healthy, Acosta plays in central midfield - though not as a DM. Jack Price is the locked-in starter there, with Collen Warner typically filling in as his backup.
     
  14. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the first time since I've been a USMNT, I'm not worried about our quality at LB. Pretty remarkable really. Arriola is not a LB. The wing-back/full back role has become very specialized over the last few years with the popularization of the 3 back formation. Jedi, Dest, Scally are all we need right now. We have Bello and Vines as well. Arriola is limited in my opinion but can do the business as an attacking wide option in the absence of Gio and CP.
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is Scally considered a left- back when he's only played there 4 times in his career, including his 15 games in the Regionalliga?
     
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  16. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not being concerned about our fullbacks doesn't mean he thinks Scally is a left back. I imagine it goes like this:

    LB: Jedi (Dest)
    RB: Dest (Scally)

    Took a lot less work to be charitable than it probably did to look up all those stats to try to say "Gotcha!"
     
  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hes as much of a lb as dest is.
     
  18. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would Arriola be considered a left back when he isn't a defender?

    Scally could fill in at left back in an injury situation, as he did for BMG. I'm not a Bundesliga manager, but the guy that coaches him felt comfortable playing him there, so it might be reasonable to consider his opinion that Scally can do the job at left back? Just spitballing there.
     
  19. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    I do like what Arriola can bring with his running and work rate. But, he's not some transcendent talent we have to shoehorn onto the field in whatever position we can rationalize. He's depth or a guy you turn to when things aren't working and that's fine. He has a place in the larger squad if not the final 23. But, he needs to earn it playing his regular position. He's not a must have kind of guy that you create a position for or who you need on the field so badly that you play him outside his normal position just to make sure he's out there. Even at left back, he'd be obviously behind Robinson. Most cycles feature players who are key in qualifying but who are just below the grade when final cuts come around and never make the World Cup team. I would not be at all surprised to see Arriola as the guy from this cycle who makes a few key appearances and helps us qualify but gets left behind when we have a full compliment of players.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is seriously considering Arriola at left-back?
     
  21. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @adam tash for one.
     
  22. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im just NOT considering him for attacking player.

    and I acknowledge that he has certain traits that are exceptional.....

    he shouldve been an outside back all along in my opinion...but now its probably too late, especially for this cycle...he'd need a season or two of seasoning most likely....

    although players like eddie lewis, brek shea, fabian johnson, etc on and on and on have transitioned from midfielder to outside back for usmnt...theres a long tradition of it.

    id call in a bunch of actual left backs before arriola though regardless.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is the one.
     
  24. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Except John Harkes. He couldn't even play RIGHT back.
     

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