But every other restaurant and bar in San Francisco is doing that enforcement. Why should In-N-Out be the only place in SF that doesn't have to ask for proof of vaccination? It shouldn't be an immense burden - there's not a big community of antivaxxers in SF like there are in Orange County and such.
In most sit down restaurants there's a host/greeter. This isn't the case at fast food restaurant. Maybe the fast food restaurants should take on an extra employee just to check vax status. There are just too many videos online of spotty faced 16 year-olds being yelled at and threatened while trying to persuade someone to put on a mask.
They’re near Fisherman’s Wharf, I seriously doubt their usual clientele is actual SF residents. And I wasn’t saying they should have an exception, more that I’m fine with them making the choice to do takeout only and bypass enforcing the mandate. And that I feel sympathetic towards relatively low paid workers (mostly teenagers, in this case) having to enforce this during a period when most places are short handed and having trouble remaining adequately staffed.
But, like, the Bubba Gump's or whatever other shitty tourist-oriented chain that would put its only SF location at Fisherman's Wharf has to check for vaccine status. Are their people better paid? Or is it like Paul Berry said in the post before, that place that sells totally authentic Northern California clam chowder in sourdough bread bowls has a greeter who can do that while the folks behind the counter at In-N-Out don't have an easy way to check for vaccine status? I can see where it's more challenging for In-N-Out - they don't know if someone is sitting down or getting food to go until they've taken the order, and only having to check the status of people sitting down is more difficult than other restaurants that are only sit-down. However, it's a global pandemic and there are a lot of costs to bear. Businesses get to bear some of those costs too. The idea that In-N-Out is being singled out and uniquely punished by the city and county of San Francisco is not the case. The company's statement where they're complaining about government overreach is whiny - they can suck it up like every other restaurant in SF. Their whole statement is in this link: https://abc7news.com/in-n-out-sf-san-francisco-in-n-out-burger/11144750/ - it reads like it's aimed at the Fox News crowd.
I mean that wouldn’t surprise me, their owners are quite Christian and conservative. But saying businesses should have costs to bear? I think most retail and food service businesses will tell you they’ve born plenty, and continue to. Personally I think it should be up to a business to determine whether or not they want to have a vaccine mandate for their customers rather than by government edict, and consumers can choose whether or not to patronize a business in turn. Before this story I didn’t even know SF was doing this, but I guess it doesn’t surprise me. I wonder how it’s being enforced, and whether or not a lot of places are actually following it strictly. My guess is there’s a whole lot of nudge nudge wink wink going on.
Oh I agree, vax rates are extremely high there. The Bay Area in general has been pretty solid on that, along with mask wearing. It’s been a culture shock when I’ve gone out of the area, drive just an hour or two into the Central Valley and it’s a different world.
OK, here's something I find strange, particularly viewed from over here... So my question is the obvious one? HOW can this man still have a license to practice medicine? I mean, particularly if you compare him to someone like this guy... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield In 2010, the GMC found that Wakefield had been dishonest in his research, had acted against his patients' best interests and mistreated developmentally delayed children,[12] and had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant".[13][14][15] The Lancet fully retracted Wakefield's 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified and that the journal had been "deceived" by Wakefield.[16][17] Three months later, Wakefield was struck off the UK medical register, in part for his deliberate falsification of research published in The Lancet,[18] and was barred from practising medicine in the UK. But, tbh, leaving aside any comparison to any other jurisdiction, (and I'd guess that most other developed countries are similar to the UK), what sort of system of medical authority allows someone who is an obvious charlatan and liar, continue to have a medical license? This isn't a matter of freedom of speech. WHilst that might be the case, there's no freedom to retain a medical license, is there? Is there something I'm missing here? Is it maybe a timing thing and he's just about to lose it when they get around to it or something?
In Italy, although the cinemas can't have a 100% capacity yet not even with Green Pass (id est: vaccination or recent negative-test), it's about a month that the Green Pass is mandatory. I went to see "Dune" two weeks ago, when it had just come out here in Italy. I am aware it is vastly off-topic here, but, after watching "Dune" and actually not being overly disappointed with it, I anyway wondered: apart from the big "Lord-of-the-Rings"-like CGI-battles and the "Matrix"-like martial-arts duel, what does this movie actually adds to the historic David Lynch's version from 1984? I mean, was this remake really necessary or, as most of these days' remakes, it was just a way to show something to generations that on principle don't watch any movies from the past century?
Yeah I feel the same I am much happier that Foundation got made. Doing the 3rd attempt at Dune feels more like grabbing the opportunity that Lynch bungled. I actually like the '84 version more than I did back when i saw it on release, but its still way too corny
I'll admit I didn't actually read the original novel, so my judgement can be skewed by the fact that it's based on the movie itself only, but I actually quite liked the '84 version, especially by a visual point of view (the atmosphere looks darker and more captivating that the one from the 2021 remake).
Oh i agree mate - if you turn off the sound and just look at the Lynch version it is amazing - especially Sting as Feyd. But being lynch its very stylised. And of course the CGI is awful. I don't mind all that. But some of the plot adaption is really bad (i have read the whole series).
The problem with the Lynch version is that it's not the Lynch version. The producers took Lynch's movie and butchered it. Visually of course it's great because Lynch is first and foremost an artist. In saying that, this was a useful addition.
I was happy someone attempted to make it but after 4 episodes they still haven't got past the first short story in the series. I do have patience but its pretty slow moving, even with all the extra stuff the writers have put in it.
I think it struggles because the run time is too short to do the political intrigue properly but it fails as an action film. So you end up with 2mins of exposition like this!
You mean a book that is literally just two dudes in a room talking didn't successfully transition to the screen?
So apparently Louisiana is the first state where white people have the lowest vaccination rate of any group. This coincides with a big gap in vax rates between urban and rural parts of the state. Here in New Orleans, you need proof of vaccination to dine indoors and it isn't much of a problem. I don't know what fast food places are doing because I never go to any (especially not to eat in the store). People who are afraid of needles bitch and moan, and go eat in the suburbs.
This is one of those many books that would be better adapted into a multi-part miniseries rather than a single movie, no matter how epic.
I completely disagree with you. In the Netherlands bars/restaurants/theaters/nightclubs during the restrictions had a hard time because of the combination of sd-issues/limited capacity allowed/limited opening hours. As a result of the vaccinations/down trend of infections/hospitalizations since sept. 25th all restrictions were lifted for them with the obligation to check and only allow guests in with a QR-code check or neg. test result <24 hours. Now we see alot of owners either publicly telling they willnot do it or just de facto skip those requirements. These assholes are jeopardizing their colleagues lifelyhood with thgis behaviour, especially now the alarmbells are ringing as infections are on the rise again with rising hospitalizations and thus hospitals had to distribute covid ICU patients across the country again. The chances are these assholes force a new lockdown of that business environment, disadvantaging the businesses of goodwill. These assholes should be fined with thousands of euros plus closure of their businesses for along time.