I know Haaland is a completely different type of player but being 0.01 behind him in ANYTHING is not too shabby... For some reason this makes me wonder where do Paul Arriola and Cristian Roldan, two guys having really good seasons, veterans who have long been settled in with their teams, who have been playing at this level for many years now, rank in Goal Creating Actions per 90 in MLS this year... probably pretty high but how high?
I mean I think the thing is he’s playing at a higher level and the higher you go the less you can get away with, which forces you to improve your game. That’s not a knock on MLS though, who did their job in having him in a place where he could step in and play from Day 1. And he’s young too so there’s still lots of room for growth. I don’t think there’s anyone though who is saying players should stay in MLS for the sake of it. I think the consensus is that people should go over when they are ready, which is different for every player. And obviously fit is super important too. And it also doesn’t mean that you can’t be a good player if you play in MLS.
Alex mighten scored for Nottingham forest so that’s fun, they win 2-1 and somehow have climbed to mid table after a horrendous start to the season. Playoff trajectory??? Top theee are clearly Bournemouth, Fulham, and west brom at this juncture
I think I already said what you did in the first two paragraphs and don't agree with the third. Pretty amazing how quickly some of these players are transforming their games after moving. Busio looks like a much more complete player.... but better quality all around, team structure and tactics, competition, etc. It is also a sign that there are young players coming out of MLS that have the raw tools to succeed if put in the right environment. This quote below is typical on here and why I responded. Tessman isn't getting minutes in the early part of the season and it is already time for a loan back to MLS. If we looked hard enough we would be able to find the people who wanted Aaronson to stay an extra year. There are plenty of other examples like these two. I have no idea why people act like these folks don't exist.
I mean more than anything young players need games. Something Tessman isn’t getting right now and he also wasn’t getting much in MLS either. He’s obviously got good potential, but he’s not going to realize it if he never plays. Hopefully that changes as the season goes on. I didn’t see anyone concerned about Aaaronson. Especially since he was going to Salzburg to play for Jessie Marsch and was clearly going to play. People just don’t want to see players go over to Europe and sit on the bench when they could be getting consistent playing time in MLS. The playing time is better for their development and career.
Nice defense of the straw man! Right. And still, no one says about Scally what @xbhaskarx insinuates.
They need the right training just as much or more. That is where they improve their game. The games just prove what they have accomplished in practice. It sometimes takes veteran players time to settle into a new team in a new country. Why wouldn't some kids need time too. The MLS fan over reacts every time a guy needs time to earn minutes. They weren't concerned about Aaronson. It was just their view he would have been better off staying and having a bigger role in Philly. It is pretty laughable to think he would be further along now if he had stayed. His game has improved dramatically since moving.
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I think it’s often more situational per player. reason id feel differently about Tessman is I didn’t think he was at a point of proving consistency in MLS and access to playing time is key to improve certain in game consistency. I always agree that getting to the right situation in top 5 leagues or in aaronson case consistent CL contestant will drive quicker improvement due to the difference in intensity. Even just the intensity surrounding them culturally.
Yeah, saw that live. Thierry Henry said in the postgame that Adams needed to use his body better there to shield the ball. He said that Verratti would not have lost the ball there for that reason.
Not a good play, but good experience to learn from. This will just keep making him more valuable to the USMNT as his current backup is getting these high level experiences and the scrutiny that goes with them.
Aaronson’s game improved because he’s playing games and playing for one of the best developmental clubs in Europe. I hope more MLS players go to Salzburg because it’s a great place to develop for young players before going to a top 5 league. But the training is overrated if you can’t get games. Consistent games are the most important thing for any young player. That’s why people should go over when they are ready and when they find the right situation as opposed to going over just for the sake of it. I don’t think it’s great for Reynolds for instance that he’s training with Roma but not playing at all. It’s going to be much better for him when he goes on loan somewhere in January to a place he can play. Or players like Uly Llanez or Sebastián Soto would have been much better served staying in MLS versus going to Europe where neither has really found the right situation.
Players who are motivated improve. Dempsey's game improved when he was with the Revolution. It continued to improve while he was in England. It still improved while he was Seattle.
What do you have to back that up. What is magical about a game vs a scrimmage? Apparently, training is where players improved when they go from not playing to playing. Is that the only situation where training is not over rated. Players learn different things from training vs games. Not sure why people on here dont think players can't improve if they aren't playing games. I dont think it is crazy at all to suggest someone like Eddie Johnson wouldn't have been better off just training in an environment that forced him to improve technically and grow tactically for a year early in his career instead of just playing games in MLS. Why would Tessman be better off struggling to get minutes in MLS vs just training with Venezia? Why is gaining constancy in games a higher priority than what he is working on niw? I dont know what is going on with Reynolds. How are you so sure he will be better off? Why was MLS the right situation? I dont think there is anything to back up going to LAG would have been ideal.
Sorry for making a joke that clearly upset you by adding "What if he’s actually good and that’s why some people want him called up?" at the end of a comment about Scally... but here are the FACTS: People including IN THIS VERY THREAD argued that Scally wasn't old enough to get called up (a few months from turning 19), that Scally was barely a professional at this point so expecting a call up was unreasonable, and that Scally didn't deserve a call up over Shaq Moore who wasn't playing in the Spanish second division because "Moore was good at the Gold Cup"... We already know how that turned out (see Moore being crap vs Panama.... meanwhile Scally still good!), but of course that won't keep people from defending their ridiculous positions even in hindsight after the ridiculousness has been confirmed by reality... which seems to be a recent pattern for you, see your "Gregg playing 5D chess by pretending Arriola is injured" nonsense. For the Scally discussion right here in this thread: See page 208 These numbers are from back then:
I mean if Reynolds wouldn’t be better off trying to get playing time why is he trying to get a loan move in January? If the training itself was sufficient why would he want to go anywhere. It was not good for Tessman that he wasn’t getting regular playing time in MLS either, though he’s was still getting more time than now. MLS would have been the right situation because someone like Soto would have been getting consistent first team minutes with a team like RSL. And he could have gone over when was ready. As opposed to now where he’s just bouncing around from reserve team to reserve team. Games are where you take what you learn in training and apply it. There’s also a certain sharpness and match fitness you lose when you aren’t playing games. But it’s also mental, in that it’s hard to be locked in at training if you’re never going to play. Training is also a controlled environment whereas in games you are placed and new and unpredictable environments that force you to sink or swim. It’s not that the training is not important or helpful, it’s that it loses a lot of its value if you don’t get consistent first team playing time. Perhaps if Johnson had found the right opportunity at a younger age in Europe, it would have worked better for him. But I have no idea what opportunities were available to him or if he would have been mentally ready and mature enough to go over at a young age. Because not everyone is and it’s a case by case basis.
Both hands on the front of the kit from behind and he goes down. Automatic whistle if that’s Kanté or de Jong. pic.twitter.com/Bm0waYs8bP— Fútbol Opinions Are Like… (@futbolnpintxos) October 20, 2021
MLS table is here. Best in the league is Carles Gil with 1.09. Mihailovic is 3rd with .80. Arriola is 15th with .61. Roldan is 93rd with .33.
One post does not a pattern make. Stop lumping me in with whoever it is that is saying things about Scally that you don't like. And you keep going on about the comment I made wondering if Berhalter planned the Arriola injury. I shouldn't have to continue to defend a mere suggestion of a possibility, but you attack me as if I've been on here proclaiming it's true. You Berhalter haters are the ones on here that constantly go around shouting about how right you are even if there's nothing to back you up. Having a theory that's impossible to test (Moore compared to Scally in the same game against Panama) doesn't make YOU right. It makes the theory unprovable. I'll include my recently-customary final comment: I know you and a half dozen others will twist this post into some Berhalter is a genius thing. It's not, and if any of you scrutinizing this because you hate me as much as you hate Berhalter use some actual sense and READ what I'm saying then you'll realize this. Scally will get called, but highly unlikely that it'll be next window (you never know, though, what injuries will happen to our guys). If he keeps doing what he's doing then I would be shocked if he didn't get a call for the January window.
The January international window is a bit of a weird one. It’s for every confederation except UEFA who is not playing any games and not every league is stopping for it (though I believe all the top 5 leagues are). I still would call him up then, but to the extent there’s a concern about him losing his spot I feel like it would be most heightened during that window when none of his European teammates are going anywhere. I’d still call him up because it’s qualifying and you’ve got to see if he’s one of your best (hopefully we’ll find out in November), but something to keep mind.