England Under 21 Discussions Thread #7

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  1. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Watched John-Jules yesterday play wide-left for Blackpool. Had a couple of neat moments in open play & maybe 1 dangerous moment in the box. But he is almost certainly a CF and comes alive when getting goalscoring opportunities in the box so tough to pass a fair judgement.

    Especially as we currently looking for the CF to stick his hand up for this group.
     
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  2. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He’s highly rated at arsenal, I haven’t seen much of him

    does he look more like a last man striker or poacher or does he go wide and try and beat his man?
     
  3. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Definitely not just a poacher, mate.

    Whilst Bowler on the opposite wing beat our player full-back a couple of times early on his decision-making was poor after that. Whilst TJJ isn't going to go on a driving run I thought he owned his space physically and if beat his marker linked well so had that spatial awareness. If he can do it central and higher up the pitch with support around & seeing his smart movement off the ball and having seen his finishing before he can be a well-rounded number 9.

    Problem obviously is Blackpool at the moment have Lavery and Yates scoring goals + Madine (old fashioned target-man to mix it up) but Critchley is giving him pitch time & maybe taking it slow with his injury record & building him up is the way to go.
     
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  4. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Palmer gets a quick cameo role for City then plays for the EDS the same day and gets a hat trick.

    Funnily I always had the conception that he was a tier below Delap and Mcatee in potential but he really seems to be asserting himself as a top tier talent now.
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I really think City need to make a decision on him in the New Year, either involve him more with the first team which imo should be a option considering Sterling’s continued poor form or send him out on loan in January as he’s just far too good for U23 football and won’t learn much playing at that standard now.
     
  6. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
     
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  7. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    It's why he's been getting the call ups.
     
  8. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Great to see him score, played Walker through with a nice pass too.
     
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  9. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    England MU21s v Czech Republic
    UEFA U21 EURO Qualifier
    7pm, Thursday 11 November
    Turf Moor, Burnley
    Live on Sky Sports
    Buy tickets

    Georgia V England MU21s
    U21 International Match
    6pm, Tuesday 16 November
    Batumi Stadium

    Squad named: 10am, Friday 5 November
     
  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    On current form, I wonder whether Ben Johnson might get into this next Squad at the expense of Aarons?
     
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  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Aarons
    Livramento
    Johnson
    Lamptey
    Laird

    The saga continues.
     
  13. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Drameh coming through too
     
  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    The Squad

    Goalkeepers: Joe Bursik (Stoke City), Etienne Green (Saint-Etienne), Josh Griffiths (Lincoln City, loan from West Bromwich Albion)

    Defenders: Max Aarons (Norwich City), Charlie Cresswell (Leeds United), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Taylor Harwood-Bellis (Anderlecht, loan from Manchester City), James Hill (Fleetwood Town), Valentino Livramento (Southampton), Luke Thomas (Leicester City)

    Midfielders: Tommy Doyle (Hamburg, loan from Manchester City), Conor Gallagher (Crystal Palace, loan from Chelsea), Jimmy Garner (Nottingham Forest, loan from Manchester United), Morgan Gibbs White (Sheffield United, loan from Wolverhampton Wanderers), Jacob Ramsey (Aston Villa), Oliver Skipp (Tottenham Hotspur)

    Forward: Folarin Balogun (Arsenal), Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United), Angel Gomes (Lille), Anthony Gordon (Everton), Cole Palmer (Manchester City), Emile Smith-Rowe (Arsenal)
     
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  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Kind of what I expected, no really interesting new call ups. How Brewster is still being picked is beyond me!!
     
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  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Also, must be the first time for a long time that we have had to call up a League one defender for this age group. Have we no other centre backs playing senior football above that level?
     
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  17. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    No Curtis Jones? CHO not accepting a call up again. A few too many odd progressions from some of our more talented players.
     
  18. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Jacob Greaves at Hull but they must not rate him. Not seen enough of him to know if that is fair.
     
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  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #12544 Marcho Gamgee, Nov 5, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2021
    I’m starting to worry about some of our young players desire to play for our Country at the moment. It almost feels like it’s a burden for them especially at U21 level but it’s not helped by this misguided notion that they are told that they are too good for this level!
     
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  20. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I'm assuming he's suspended for this first game also, so makes even less sense.
     
  21. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #12546 Slater582, Nov 5, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2021
    Alternatives aren't great.:thumbsdown:

    Jones missed the last club game, eye injury in training apparently. Read in the Telegraph Southgate called CHO personally basically asking him to represent the u21's for now and he rejected the offer.

    Luis Binks seems to have featured in five of the last six Serie A game for Bologna although mostly off the bench. Doesn't appear in the Scotland squads either. Wonder what the situation is there.:cautious:
     
  22. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
    Levi Colwill oddly dropped from the U21s from the start of the season and back into the U19s.
     
  23. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Wheres madueke
     
  24. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
    Believe he's injured
     
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  25. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I imagine its more to do with the fact the under 19s have qualifiers and they would prefer to have Colwill there than sitting on the bench for the under 21's.
     

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