No longer a Barça lounger: Sergiño Dest at PSV (olf FC Barcelona)

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  1. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least he's consistent and that mentality doesn't change between club and country.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Played 86 in a 2-0 loss.
     
  3. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    Yeah it was not a good look. I'm not defending him and he should have not given up, but he was going full bore and it seemed to me that he thought Suarez was ready fo pull the trigger and there was no hope.and he slowed down. I don't think he was being lazy more that he just made a bad judgement call. He was pretty frustrated after the goal and I think realized he should not have slowed up.

    TBH, for all the shit that Dest takes for his defense, he has been reasonably solid the last couple of games. Barcelona's defensive woes can't be pinned on Sergino IMO.
     
  4. ShayG

    ShayG Member+

    Celtic
    United States
    Aug 9, 2021
    His poor offense is the most surprising to me. He looks like a very technical player who is playing one level too high; nothing he does threatens the defense. It’s mostly sideways and back, or run into a defender and get little-brothered off of the ball.

    But at least he’s playing for Barca so maybe he improves over time.
     
  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Whether left or right he keeps repeating the same move: overlap to the edge, ready to run in a diagonal cutting to the middle to launch his cross.

    Very predictable player.
     
  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    His D is much improved - and can still improve more, imho. But he was on multiple teams-of-the-week last week and AM is just a better team, atm, then Barca. This is going to be a tough year for them, but for Dest to stay in the game against top Liga teams, he's going to have to be doing a lot right.
     
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  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    This isn't true against all teams, however. Dest/Barca are not as good as AM right now, but he ran through Levante on the left a number of times and Barca looked much better with him in the line-up vs Real Soc. I think it's pretty clear that Dest, as good as he is, is not at the "can impact the top teams" level yet. But to say "nothing he does threatens the defense" is not the full picture. And again, he was a Jong Ajax player 24 months or so ago...
     
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  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Barcelona has a bit of a fullback crisis right now.

    Jordi Alba, the LB, was injured and is just back, and that's why Dest was moved to the left.

    Then there was the whole Emerson Royal issue. Tottenham made an offer for him Barcelona couldn't refuse (they need the money) and sold him on the last day of the transfer window, even though the Brazilian didn't want to go.

    The result is that they are very thin at fullback positions. Mingueza is a converted CB with no left foot, so while Alba is out, it had to be Dest on the left.

    The other LB they got on the squad is a kid, Alex Balde, who's 17 and injured.
     
  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
     
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    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
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  11. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    lol... if you think Dest on offense is the problem, you're insane.

    The point of a wing back system is for them to get forward and serve balls into the box. Barce has no one to serve balls to. Defenses know this and can concentrate on the dribble and give the endline because there is literally no threat when they are serving in crosses.

    This team is a mess with no forward play and it's making everyone look bad. Hindsight has us all wishing Dest was at Bayern and not Barce - but in the end, he will be better for this season as the struggle will make him grow.
     
  12. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^this^... he is still so young and so is Barca as a team.

    Also... love that you posted that chart. Those complaining about Dest "giving up" on that goal are over-critical IMO. Is anyone asked to run more than Dest?... Particularly when he is taking Alba's spot on the left? I think he tracks back pretty well all things considered. How can anyone expect a player positioned that high up on the left to cover every turnover? It is just not possible.
     
  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That chart is like a Pep teaching tool - overload the left, let Frenkie score...

    Except, of course, Frenkie's got to score...
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Profile:

    https://defector.com/what-is-this-usmnt-guys-deal-sergino-dest/

    “Sergino was very talented, but he found it difficult when he had to think about tactical things,” [former Ajax youth coach Gery Vink] says. “He had a lot of talent, he was fast, very good both feet, and very good in attack. But mentality is also a talent, and his coaches had a lot of problems with his attitude, his behaviour. He was special. I had a lot of talks with him, and a lot of fights and discussions about what is needed to get to the top, to be a star. Sometimes he said no, just that — ‘I won’t do it. No, I don’t like it, I won’t do it’.”
     
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  15. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salt level 100 from Ajax..How about that fcvking banger Wednesday?
     
  16. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is what coaches say when you leave for greener pastures I guess. Pretty bitter and unprofessional words too. Bet the coach's wife had the hots for Dest or something
     
  17. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yikes. I hope this is not true, but ...
     
  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta

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  19. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It may be true to some extent but it certainly sounds like some bitter over-exaggeration to me.
     
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  20. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sounds like a teenager that is much better than every one he plays with. It happens. Some where down the line he will become that mature man who is better than everyone else and see the err of his ways and try to pass that on to the next big thing.
     
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  21. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    It's almost like the game is built upon group patterns and individual pattern recognition.
     
  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
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    Dest in the squad, of course, and the group is looking almost complete.
    Alba is back; Kun Aguero appears (a first?)​
     
  23. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    mmm, I wonder if that is why he shut off during the NL finals when he was asked to play LB.
     
  24. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    remember this is one side of a story from the team he left.
     
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  25. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Doesn't this just fit into the stereotype about the Dutch being very blunt?
     

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