The Real Reboot Thread: Road to WC22

September are you kidding me. We are talking about all of "the last days of Löw". You switched to this fallback position only after it was clear the team works much better without him. This post on 8th September came AFTER the first 2-3 games under Flick. As I was saying, "falsification of history"

 

I thought he was better than Kehrer in the Romania game in the same position. I think he could be a decent alternative, but he's young yet. I doubt he will be a superstar in the position (like Lahm) but a good solid alternative that can work with wingers and deliver good crosses.

 

I was about to type something in defence of Low (I am a contrarian, so I look on the other side of arguments) but I couldn't. He was just a sad shadow of someone who may have been a great NT coach, but ultimately was out of his depth.

 

I wish I could multi-rep this post, it pretty much summarizes my thoughts about Flick's management as well.

In the previous 2 international breaks under Low, the German team got worse. Started out with decent performances, then ending with embarrassing results (6-0 against Spain, and 2-1 against N. Macedonia). This team seems to improved under Flick.

For November, I don't see too much in experimental line-ups. There was still a lot of sloppiness in the play, and I don't know if Flick is convinced with what hi final line up will be. There seems to be a lot of integration work still required for some positions and fine-tuning of tactics.

It must be depressing for our opposition to have played against Werner, Sane, Gnabry and Muller - then the "B" side comes on (Musiala, Wirtz, Adayemi, Havertz) and they are even more hungry and ruthless.

And this is for @Ger90 : Our team is terrible, we have no talent, all the youth talent is garbage. (just kidding).

 

Team 2026?

 

Right so Germany was always very very fortunate to have good DM for the last few years , I think it started with Hamann in 2000.
But here some of the names:

• Frings
• Hammann
• Kehl
• Rolfes
• Khedira
• Schweinsteiger
• Kroos
• Gundo
• Kimmich
• Gorestka

So we are still good for another 4 years I would say , but we need some new names on that position, I see most DM did not start of as DM but rather grew into that role over time. If you see most of the above names did not always play DM .

Quite funny though how number 10 used to be the most important man on the pitch- now it seems it the number 6

 

IIRC Helmut Rahn had a goal against French Saarland when he was 15 years and some months. The game wasn't counted in FIFA records because it was a friendly/ or Saarland fielded players from other parts of West Germany or something of the sort.

 

Not sold on him yet.
Need to see him play against better sides in the trikot.

I am however impressed by Kehrer.

 

Hope Kehrer plays a significant role at PSG this year. He also needs to get in the starting line up more often.... would be shame if not. He could really improve playing for a team like that .

 

https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-um-den-deutschen-fussball-77943906.bild.html
Bild says the following: Where does Germanys stand after the WC qualification.

So yes we have a great team with a great mix of experience (Reus, Muller and Neuer) - top class players (Sane, Gnabry, Werner, Gorestka and Kimmich) and the youth ( well we know all of the ones between 18 and 23).

However:

• Still dont have a striker - Bayern and Dortmund still rely heavily on a Striker
• Still no LB/RB - only makeshift options
• We only played teams that ranked between 37 and 181 in the world.

At least in 2022 March we will play some friendlies against higher teams and in June there is the UEFA nation league - so we will need to patient to see how good Germany really is .

 

I don’t know why Stindl is constantly overlooked. I hope that next month Flick calls up a different option at 9, just to see how the team looks with a more classic CF.

 

Very valid point - very agreed - I mean there are only a few outright top strikers in the world .... and very little teams can boast of having one .. (England, France, Belgium, Poland Norway, Senegal..etc....)

But Germany has a non-elite striker - Werner ... anyway with the addons of Adeyemi and Nmecha this could be solved in the near future

 

LOOOOOL, as long as you ensure us with the talent coming through is credible, then that's definitely good enough for us, who the hell is Bierhoff!

 

Bierhoff is a populist with a total lack of
self-criticism. Should be ignored. Takes to much energy listening to him.

 

Hummels must play alongside either Sule or Rudiger in the starting 11. Kehrer will be a good centre back cover. Ginter should only play RB.

 

Mhh Not sure if Hummels is required anymore - yes he can open up the game from the back , but should we really use a player that will be 34 come this worldcup....

 

He's still a quality defender but I agree with you, age wise he might start declining soon. We'll see how he fares with BVB this season.