The Real Reboot Thread: Road to WC22

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 29, 2021.

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  1. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nice with 2 upcoming games without preassure nice oppurtunity for Flick and the players.

    Hope for Süle to continue on this path. In this form he has everything I think.

    Think Werner will get his chance now at Chelsea to. Really hope he takes it. Time for him to have some luck to. Almost been cursed with VAR etz

    In general it feels harder and harder to beat the smaller bussparking nations. Especially if not scoring early or first. Bad grass yesterday to.
     
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I like this team. I also hope Baku gets another chance.
     
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  3. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep, you think Hummels will force his way in? At moment he seems to be a reserve.
     
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  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well duh where to play LG instead all other positions were taken? And you still argued in favor of him
     
  5. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So why is this IMPORTANT?

    FIFA will assign the draw based on pots. Pot1 will be according To the fifa rankings of April 2022.

    At this stage Germany would fall into pot 2 according to their ranking .

    The first 7 teams plus Qatar will make up pot 1 - if we lucky Germany will play in the opening game against Qatar .

    Or Else we get put in a group with either :
    Belgium
    Brasil
    France
    Italy
    Spain
    Argentina
    England

    Maybe another group of death [emoji3517]
     
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  6. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Finals Draw takes place in April, so only have 4 international match days to be played before then. So it definitely looks like it’s gonna be 2nd pot. If that happens best to draw either Qatar or European team.

    Being in with a top seeded European team would mean likely no group of death, the third seeds would be from other confederations, maybe someone like Chile, Senegal or Iran. Bring drawn with Brazil or Argentina could mean third seed being Croatia or Sweden.

    Tbh under Flick I don’t have major concerns about getting out of any possible group, the team is strong enough to beat most likely third seeded opponents.
     
  7. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Identifying the scorer is in good space and making an accurate pass to him is something significant.
     
  8. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Love this(!), xcept I would like to see Florian Wirtz as CAM and Havertz out right.
     
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  9. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Didn't see the game but from highlights and reviews these are some things that may be considered negatives and positives.

    Negatives:
    - Germany has dropped so far that we feel a sense of accomplishment (and give a sigh of relief) when we beat North Macedonia. It's amazing in retrospect how much of a backwards negative trajectory the NT last few years with Low were.
    - There were a lot bad last balls in the final third. For now I'm attributing this to quite a few of the players being tired.
    - Goretzka did not have his usual great game. Again possibly tiredness.
    - Defence looked shaky at times.

    Positives:
    - Even playing badly Germany won 4-0 away from home.
    - Clean sheet!
    - Timo Werner had a great night. His goals were fantastic. There was an article on Bavarian Footballworks that stated that if Werner can return to elite scoring Germany can win the WC in Qatar. I agree.
    - Successful debut for David Raum. I was very impressed with him for the under-21's. It wasn't perfect but very good for a debut with a high whoscored rating. I think he's definitely better than Kehrer for the LB position and now we have competition between Gosens and himself.
    - Good game for Muller with two assists.
    - Success for the young players; an assist for Wirtz, assist for Adeyemi, and a goal for Musiala.
    - Havertz scored. Hopefully this can get him on the right track.
     
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  10. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #1935 Rosebud, Oct 12, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2021
    I'd like to see something like this for the next match:

    Havertz
    Musiala - Wirtz - Adeyemi
    Gundogan* - Neuhaus*
    Kehrer - Süle - Klostermann - Baku

    *Dahoud
    Open to swapping Raum in for Klostermann, with Kehrer sliding inside to CB, as well since it's Liechtenstein...though having Ilkay & Flo (or Mo) shielding Kehrer-Süle while both FBs bomb forward, does make me anxious even if we can get away with it against this opponent.

    If Hummels starts rounding into form, I'd consider playing him between Kehrer & Süle so they can start to establish chemistry under Flick. As Mats could still be important for us next winter, despite needing people to run for him...or he could be totally washed already...and his passing is still a dynamic that no other german defender comes even close to providing if he will be sharp in 14 months time.


    I like Havertz most as a false 9 and I think having him pulling defenders out of place, could be the best way to make use of the goal scorers we can put around him...especially with Adeyemi making the kind of runs off of him that Volland & Werner have when he played in that spot successful at club level. Plus Wirtz already has experience playing behind false-9-Kai, with a dangerous left-footed forward to his right, and a winger on his left who is happy to run at defenders...

    Let Baku & Ilkay bomb forward to support the front 4, with Neuhaus (or Dahoud) hanging back more to help link the defense & attack.
     
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  11. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would defiantly say that JK and LG should get a rest and time for Neuhaus to get a full 90 min
     
  12. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's a shame that we don't have a proper alternative to Kimmich at the 6*, and a part of me thinks that it would be best to play our starting midfield if we're going to go all kids in the attack...but it being Liechtenstein definitely makes me happier to experiment with things that I don't think we'd be able to get away with against top teams.

    Hopefully, Neuhaus gets back on form by the next international break, as he hasn't been nearly as good this season as he was last year...at least not so far.


    *assuming that my BVB-fan buddy has been lying to me about Mo successfully converting into a 6 for them & looking more like the maestro I fell in love with all those years ago lol
     
  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dorsch could also be an option at 6 in the near future.
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I suspect Flick also won't give the kids huge minutes as their time has to be managed with their clubs as well.

    Don't want to overplay them
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    You are trying a bit too hard to be outraged here

    I was one of the people that wanted the Bayern trio in midfield.

    But given Löw was going to go with the back 3 plus Kroos, we ended up discussing the teams he actually picked
     
  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That’s a falsification of history. Especially shown by the fact you are still to this day in favor of fielding Gündogan at 6 and only at 6 because there is no other option
     
  17. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Raum was good,and with the imminent Nmecha call up this Nov,he'll be even more dangerous with all those deliveries.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Nope

    I said Gundo can cover all 3 midfield positions, so is a good player to have on the bench
     
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  19. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dorsch was extremely impressive defensively at the U21...but I'm skeptical about him becoming a senior NT caliber talent unless his skill level takes a Neuhaus-/Hofmann-like jump in the coming years.

    Maybe as a defensive depth option, but I'm dubious that bringing him on instead of bringing on a third CB, will ever be to our benefit. So we'll see what the future holds for him.
     
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  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    [​IMG]
     
  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Called it btw
     
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  22. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Reading might not be your strong suit, I get it. My post talked about how weird it was having a WC qualifier right before the Euro Cup and that threw me off, not that it was not a qualifier. I literally, right above, say this is a qualification match.

    Look at you, Mr Popular...you got 8 "likes". Congratulations. You win popular teen of the week. Well done. *claps*
     
  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Again with the "you cant read" defense after you managed to embarrassed yourself during the first time in a way I had to post the fully online dictionary definition of "qualifier" for you to shut up? Way to go when it didnt work the first time to try it another time. Learning disability or US education system or both?
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Take the handbags to PMs
     

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