Petition to have GGG fired

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by VictoryWePredict4Thee, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i watched the whole thing and immediately went to sign the petition after.

    he is insufferably full of himself....in such a slick and polished way to hide that very fact.

    ask me that question with data behind it???????? puhleeeeeeeze
     
  2. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    who is the guy who is going to fix this though? who is the answer to this coaching problem?

    there is no answer
     
  3. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fans always say that though. It's hard to believe that not a single coach in all of sports never thought of ideas like "win games", "play to potential" and "have a coherent effective team". Or maybe it's a crappy GM that hires the guy that passes up "win games" for "everyone gets to play and orange slices at half time".
     
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  4. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    Doesnt mean you cant put pressure on GGG to be better.
     
  5. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well, I am sure it occured to them. To bad it isn’t in their skillset. To be fair, “hire buddy’s brother” seems to have trumped “win games” here
     
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  6. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    I don't think most people fully understand how bad the bottom half of this CONCACAF final 8 is. Berhalter really has to be incompetent to be dropping points to teams like El Salvador and Panama. Just look at their rosters. It is a f@cking sick joke.
     
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  7. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    If the psychological flaws of who we have now are actively doing harm to our chances, any plain vanilla coach who approaches the task with a little humility will be an improvement.
     
  8. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats what stands out to me.

    this performance that ggg put out vs panama....against an actual good team????

    massacre.

    he has somehow managed to avoid being embarrassed and playing actual good teams....but i guess we just have to wait for everyone else to see that the emperor isnt wearing any clothes....

    i'd love for some of the stars of the team to just say no more to ggg....they could force the fed's hand....imagine reyna and pulisic said we arent playing for this clown anymore....
     
  9. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    'No one can hurry me down to Hades before my time, but if a man’s hour is come, be he brave or be he coward, there is no escape for him when he has once been born.'

    -Hector
     
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  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    To be fair......................Mexico and Costa Rica have already dropped points in Panama as well. Maybe they're not as bad as you think they are.

    Also worth noting that we heavily rotated our roster with the 3 game window in mind. Panama basically started their same lineup in the first two games, and lets see how they do in their third game here..............which is against Canada.
     
  11. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    Costa Rica is part of that bad bottom half. Mexico had a lead in that game, then wilted inexplicably. I believe it was their 3rd game in 7 days, which might explain it.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Every team has 3 games in this window.
    So a lot of the challenge of coaching is how to rotate the squad within those windows.
    Some coaches have used their "A" teams in their first two games. Costa Rica and Panama are two of them. Basically the same lineups in both games. The USMNT heavily rotated their squad. Berhalter gambled and lost. So now we have more of our better players fresh for the 3rd game. If we now win the CR game because that decision was made, then OK.

    I know on these boards we over-react to every result. We have to zoom out and look a little big picture too. If we win this game, we're in 2nd place in the Ocho with a VERY young squad. The 2nd youngest squad any nation called up in this window...............worldwide. And that was without Pulisic and Reyna.

    I do think we have to remember that we're without our two most dynamic and creative offensive players in this window. If we get 6 points without Pulisic and Reyna, I'll be satisfied. Not thrilled obviously. My goal was at least 7. But 6? We'll qualify for the World Cup if we get 5/6 in every window. Comfortably.

    Oh, and let's be clear. Berhalter isn't getting fired with the Gold Cup and Nations League trophies in hand.................while sitting in the World Cup qualification places. Zero chance. Ze-ro. SO I guess the Berhalter haters have to hope that the USMNT loses to Costa Rica, putting WCQification at risk. Is that what being a USMNT fan is all about? I don't think so.
     
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  13. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    I would not be surprised if Panama finished ahead of Canada.
     
  14. GreedyG

    GreedyG Member

    Dec 9, 2020
    Also, if you suck, soon you will be sitting up there with them....hopefully.
     
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  15. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a valid quote, I guess. Fans are everyone. They cover the spectrum of experience and ignorance. Knowledge and hubris. The fallacy is that any head coach at a high level ever listens to fans. But the reality is in this and other cases in the coaching profession, there are definitely some fans the fool(s) should listen to.
     
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  16. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    Well, that would be ideal, but most coaches/managers simply get recycled like used aluminum cans until somebody else better or more attractive comes along.

    I've met a couple of pretty famous coaches in my time and one of them -- who if I named him, everybody would know him -- once told me, and I paraphrase:

    When you manage,, at first, you don't have a career: you have stops. Enough stops, you have a career. Not enough stops, no career"

    Professional coaching in top leagues is a brutal, results driven business, made doubly tough by the fact that most jobs have a timeline, implicit or explicit because they are "stops."

    One way around the problem is to own the team, a la George Halas, or dominate totally at one level, like Paterno or Saban, or in soccer, Jerry Yeagley at Indiana.

    Or be in a situation where being on top all the time is not a criteria -- Pat Fitzgerald at Northwesten is a example of a coach who could only lose his job if Northwestern sucked for an extended period of years. Off years/with some on years would never doom him.

    Otherwise, be prepared to make stops.
     
  17. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    You wouldn't be surprised, but I would be shocked.

    But, hey, anything can happen, and does, in the cesspool that is CONCACAF!
     
  18. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Look at Canada’s history…they’re in uncharted territory and they’re behind the US now.
     
  19. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we are going down that road, I’d prefer a scruffy mutt rescue from the pound. An underbite and oversized ears would be a nice touch.
     
  20. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    This petition thread is adorable!
     

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