Post-match: USA Vs Panama 10/10/21

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by EXALIFTIN, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    By the way, NO ONE (and by "no one," I mean no one but myself) has even mentioned the consistently awful set piece delivery in 31 pages.

    This team (not merely this roster, but the entire pool) lacks a consistently good dead-ball taker. That's a real, high-priority problem.
     
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  2. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    The other way to look at it is that there has been so many awful things to mention it took 31 pages to get to the set pieces!
     
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  3. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's just not new. The team has sucked on set pieces for a long run. With as much as trams foul the attacking players it's a shame but outside of Miles Robinson winning headers, it's bad and that's not consistent. Have to get better.
     
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  4. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    It's more like there's been about 29 pages of discussion about whether rotation is even needed, and a bunch of kvetching about a manager that some posters really can't stand, playing MLSers they really can't stand, and trying to antagonize other posters. It's an embarrassing thread, really, at least as suitable for BSMX as here.

    And yet, no one has discussed set piece delivery, which has been regularly sub-par. We have a dead ball problem.
     
  5. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busio's delivery is good, but he would need to play for it to matter.
     
  6. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Busio really has to be in the lineup against CR. His form in Italy has been good. His passing range is the best among our mids. CR is going to bunker and we're going to need players in the box and someone who can deliver a good ball into the box. Plus as you noted, set pieces. I think they are going to be very important in this game.
     
  7. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to my Ignore list.
     
  8. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the biggest problem, after a day of reflection, was that the team was rotated for rest, and the substitutions were pre-planned for rest as well.

    There was no indication that the subs were for the guys playing poorly, especially in midfield.

    There is no way Musah should've been subbed ahead of Acosta and Lletget.

    And the Zardes switch should've been at halftime.

    And then to sub in Roldan when chasing a goal instead of Hoppe...
     
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  9. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Likewise, and as you have nothing worth engaging with, thank you for reminding me to correct my oversight.
     
  10. munovalente

    munovalente Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 29, 2021
    Pulisic and Reyna getting hurt at the same definitely compounded the set piece problem. Neither is great, but are probably our best two. If Busio is good, that is one more reason to get him on the field ahead of guys like Lletget or Acosta.

    Feel like we never really replaced Landon in that area. It's been a long time. And we don't have fringe guys like Zusi or Brad Davis who can do it anymore either.
     
  11. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    When you have one player underperforms, you blame the player.
    When all players underperfrom, you blame they are from Europe.
    LOL.
     
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  12. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    #787 diablodelsol, Oct 11, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2021
    I’m not ok with this. My son is 15 years old. The last time he got to experience a World Cup that we played in he was 8. He’ll be an adult in 2026
     
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  13. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Earlier…yesterday I believe….it was the clubs had FIFA by the balls. Now it’s some gentlemen’s pact between Gregg and the clubs.

    At what point do you start to admit that Berhalter is simply not very good at evaluating talent? Or that Berhalter thinks he’s such a brilliant manager that he thinks he can win with any of the chess pieces he puts on the board?
     
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  14. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    This ^.
     
  15. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My son was almost six years old when I took him to a packed Buffalo Wild Wings to watch USA-Portugal in 2014. He's now 13 years old and is crazy about the sport. He has a Christian Pulisic poster (actually something called a DisPlate) ready to go up in his room when we move into our new house after construction is complete.

    The idea of him not seeing the US in a World Cup for 12 years is just not acceptable to me.
     
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  16. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    I did.
     
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  17. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My response was to a post that said we need to put our best team on the field in every world cup qualifier. That doesn't seem to allow for rotation. So it's not a red herring.

    To say other players such as Busio and Hoppe should have been picked instead, I have not problem with that argument at all.
     
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  18. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Well, congratulations. I'm glad someone else thought it worthy to mention set pieces (which account for roughly a quarter of all goals scored, including the one we'd conceded last night) in a 32-page discussion in an analysis board.
     
  19. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not only win, but win his way. I would be fine with a bunker-counter 2nd squad prepped specifically for this game if we came to the conclusion the 2nd stringers wouldn't hold the ball against Panama.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Both are the same thing. The clubs have FIFA by the balls, they have basically refused to release players to CONMEBOL and other CONCACAF nations. That is not up for debate, it's a fact.

    It's been a long time that the clubs in the top European leagues want to end with the international game. And they have a point: they're the ones spending millions on players who often get injured during international duty.

    Now with the pandemic situation those leagues finally have the power to deny release. The USA has suffered less than other countries due to the financial clout of the country, but everybody knows that at this point the clubs have FIFA by the balls.

    Since we don't want to antagonize the clubs, it makes sense the USSF leadership is trying to keep things in amiable terms. If Leipzig or Valencia ask us to please not use their players for 270 minutes, and specially not in Panama where the field may be dodgy, it's in our best interest to say "yes."

    Else, for next window, they may just deny to release them, like West Ham did with Antonio for Jamaica.
     
  21. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Antonio could've gotten released if he'd wanted to. I would suspect that he just doesn't prioritize playing for Jamaica very highly. On the other hand, it seems to me that Pulisic, Adams, McKennie, and Reyna all put a lot of pride into putting on the jersey of the US National Team.
     
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  22. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    To be fair our 2 best set piece takers are out. Pulisic and Reyna. It will be good with them.
     
  23. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I think this is the play that symbolizes how abysmal the US performance was last night - and how Berhalter got things wrong.

     
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  24. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Buuuuuut he completes 118% of his passes so he must be good. At least that is what people said to me for the past couple years while I was pointing this sort of stuff out.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well... just the one from your boy

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