Post-match: USA Vs Panama 10/10/21

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by EXALIFTIN, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tactical malaise, inexperience and, poor mentality. Yesterday was the trifecta and for as bad as we looked, it was a tossup, ugly match.
     
  2. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

    Orlando City
    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    You must be a real history buff
     
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  3. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could be the case. It looked like we wanted to do both, counterpress and then hold the ball. And when we couldn't win it back quickly we were supposed to shrink the field (this is where the pressing triggers might have been poorly executed).
     
  4. munovalente

    munovalente Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 29, 2021
    Even worse is that Yedlin, Miles and Richards were also better options and actually on the roster.
     
  5. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    Central American qualifiers are where the rubber hits the real road. You can throw out all those deceptive friendly wins. They don't add up to a plate of frijoles down south. You better be on your game or you will get thrown to the lions. It takes a particular competitive player who relishes a tough challenge. It also takes a coach who knows what buttons to push and knows who has the right stuff. Honestly, I'm seeing that less and less over the last 20 years, both players and coaches.
     
  6. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's defending his league. It was the teenagers (all 3 of them) from Bundesliga that lost in T&T. Not incompetent coaching (strikes again) or dead weight Bradley and friends.
     
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  7. munovalente

    munovalente Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 29, 2021
    Aaronson came on because we had absolutely no creativity in attack and he was the best option for that. Bringing Adams to shore up DM was the right idea, but moving Acosta to CM instead out of the game, was not.
     
  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Perhaps. That's a read. I guess I read it as inconsistent effort, even up top. Arriola pressed hard, Zardes largely jogged and Weah reacted late then often overpursued.

    Just a mess. But I'm not nearly enough of an expert to tell what the plan was when that chaos is occurring.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    One of the weirdest things in that Couva game is the way Bradley encroached on the area that was supposedly Pulisic's.

    If you guys re-watch, look at how many times Mike gets in the way when a ball was directed to Puli.

    It's almost as if those two were not in speaking terms.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    He had to take someone out and Musah was the guy out of position time and again. I guess Berhalter thought leaving the tired Acosta to cover that side was better than keeping Musah there.

    Neither option was good. He should have subbed both but that'd have been three subs.

    PS: There's a rumor that Musah was injured, btw.
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The US aren't a strong pressing team. It's not in the dna.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I saw the rumor from someone supposedly ITK about Musah's injury in the morning, on Twitter, but can't find it. CBS seems to have picked on it, though, for their ratings:

    https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ne...-team-struggles-in-shocking-defeat-at-panama/

    Yunus Musah 4
    Was kind of alone in the middle and couldn't get into space and cause any danger. Also looked as if he was a step slow, perhaps dealing with a knock. Came off at the break.
     
  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Would've added Torre or Busio to add creativity. Aaronson is more trigger-puller than creative player.
     
  14. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    It may not be the most in-depth, technical summary, but it is nonetheless rather accuate.
     
  15. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    You forgot to add that Julian Green is a slow, below average Bundesliga midfielder, with a terrible understanding of the game and who has no claim to a Nats call up. ;)
     
  16. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    So you're going to run Tyler Adams for 270 minutes again?
     
  17. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would actually be a fumy parody of a soccer player, unfortunately it is real and happens on a consistent basis.
     
  18. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Arriola was pulled after 45.
     
  19. El Stikero

    El Stikero Member

    None
    United States
    Jun 10, 2021
    Not rotating in new starters does not mean run Adams, Aaronson, Pepi etc a full 90 the next match. In Adam's case he didn't go 90 vs Jamaica either. How about starting the guys who subbed off early so that at the very least they can help the team get off to a better start rather than allow Panama to build momentum from the jump until it became almost a certainty that eventually they would score. Instead those guys were brought on to try and stop a fire and save the game.
     
  20. munovalente

    munovalente Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 29, 2021
    Yeah, there were like 7 guys that should have been subbed out, but only 5 subs go around. Lletget was awful, but I can see he wasn't one of the 5. I'd probably kept Weah and dropped Acosta, might have the worst out there last night, although there were several of options for that title. It was a really poor starting lineup.
     
  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Lletget messed up the reception of that ball. That bad second touch forced him to retreat.

    Lletget and Zardes don't have the ball control for the international game.
     
  22. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    This ^. You can add Arriola to that list.
     
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  23. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    "The simple truth?" No, that's a baseless narrative, full-stop.
     
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  24. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    When players all over the pitch are losing duels and and getting beaten to 50/50 balls, then there's an intensity problem. I don't mind if you pin that at least partly on coaching; I believe the team was not prepared for the game that was played, but rather for they game that Berhalter mistakenly thought Panama was going to play, and if so, that was costly. Nevertheless, we were as bad in the second half as we were in the first, and it wasn't all tactical. We were out-competed.
     
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  25. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, I have to wonder why the evil MLS agenda didn’t apply to the Nations League final (only one MLS starter), while it did against Panama. Seems pretty random in its implementation.
     

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