WCQ 2022 - Colombia vs Brasil (October 10th)

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Brasil is like globetrotters.....is very difficult to take out the ball to them....exellent team.......no coincedence this was the fist match they didnt win
     
  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Different strokes for different folks I guess. On Mojica and Lerma I think I am very impacted by the recent performance of the incumbents. Uribe has done more harm than good in recent matches and I struggle to reward him for yesterday for snatching at a chance... It might have to do with what he is being asked to do - in the past I've liked Uribe in the side, but recently he just can't control the ball.

    With Mojica - he was playing Brasil. Any LB is going to get skinned a couple of times, I thought that was a massive effort from him today and between his and Yairo's recent work I feel better on that flank.

    On Mina - man. He was awesome yesterday. Barrios was terrific as always, they were both great.
     
  3. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Watching Argentina dismantle Uruguay also made me value the point we skinned off them too. That game in BA is going to be intense.
     
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  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The team is much more creative with uribe and improved with uribe yesterday....if you dpnt want to "reward"....so do the same lerma his last match agaisnt argentina was horrendous we improved with his exit...also one of the worse in queiroz last matches....


    Yesterday he wasnt below average...but have to showed a lot of to earned a deserve spot..


    Regards mojica he is giving a big effort but guy dpesnt dpminate that position.....
     
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  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    All opponents are different...yeah we cant attack argentina as we played against chile last month...

    But i think that maybe will be more similar to game in copa in semis...tought but we will hqve mlre options than against brasil.

    If we defend like yesterday we wont receive goal at least leonel geniality
     
  6. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    Falcao is a fighter and he is giving it 10000%. I thought Rueda's snd half changes were promising and Duvan came in pretty focused and with Borre pressuring the ball we finally had some solid chances upfront.

    Roger was awful last night and that may have impacted a lot of what we were able to do upfront because he just couldn't hold on to the ball.

    Lastly, I don't see how VAR disallows that PK!
     
  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #107 ryu79, Oct 11, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2021
    I don't think you followed my point. Lerma was , imo, more stable yesterday than I've seen from Uribe in his most recent matches (and far from the Lerma that was a disaster against Argentina).

    In principle, I agree we are better a better team with Uribe than Lerma (and Uribe is the Starter for that position all things being equal) - but he has been terrible in recent matches - and Ive felt that way and said that here despite the press loving them. Yesterday, I thought Uribe was relatively better than recent disasters, if he can play more like himself I am happy to have him in the side, because we need more creativity.
     
  8. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Have you seen a video of the VAR review? There were no replays on the Fubo feed. Was so weird. I don't even know how egregious it was.
     
  9. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    I didn't. It was the same Argentina refs BS that we are used to.
     
  10. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Falcao's pressure is token pressure, he pressure'd with no chance to win the ball without any danger really and quite often did it in ways when he was on his own waving his teammates forward behind him. I'm glad he works hard, but if we're pressing we have to do it as a unit, so not sure if this is his fault or Rueda's. Mojica looked pretty good when he had Jesus who isn't really going to face you up 1v1 wide, once Raphina came on he struggled which is understandable late in the game.
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    falcaos pressure have wear off the defenders more than you think..the play with miitao that rferee decided was fault show a little of did...

    in stadium mojicas effort was evident...but at the same time he looked very clumsy in his tecnique....
     
  12. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    After marinating the game yesterday, here are my ratings.

    Ospina -I’m an avid critic of Ospina, especially when he gives up loose balls that he should secure. But last night he was immense. Seemed to always be at the right place at the right time. Some nights this dude is just a beast. Need to find a replacement for this guy ASAP- 8

    Medina— I like Medina. Especially since is AN days. I think he’s a solid rb on a good night but it’s been a while since I can say he’s played a good match in yellow. Doesn’t add much going forward and seems clumsy on defense. Not sure if the pressure or what but Arias can’t come back soon enough. - 4

    Mina- in the air Mina is almost unplayable and he is a natural leader which I respect. I just think he leaves way to many holes and gives up plenty of chances that needs cleaning up from Barrios or even Cuesta. Not sure we have anybody better so I just hope he gets more consistent. Solid -5

    Cuesta- This kid is a fresh of breath air. The way he pressures the offense and doesn’t lose his footing like Davo is great. Had some great stops but I want to shout out how good on the ball he is. I feel comfortable when he’s going forward from the back. His passing is actually very good and think he’d make a solid DM. -7

    Mojica- I am not as critical of this guy as others and don’t give him too much shit for the game against a Ecuador. Everyone was abysmal that game. He’s a LB and plays like one. Yes he had some slip ups but he also had some great stops. Going forward he adds more than Tesillo and that’s obvious. I think with more game time under his belt he can be even better. Def room for improvement but I’m fine with him starting. Solid -6

    Barrios- Haven’t bought a jersey in a long time. If I do, it’s going to be his. There is no other DM in the world as consistent as this guy. -8.5

    Lerma- he’s a conundrum. Sometimes he looks like Pogba and other times he’s just strolling along. Last night he seemed off. I like his physical presence but not sure that’s what our midfield needs right now. Looks lost often-4

    Quintero- was dangerous at times but again. Would love to see a fit Quintero for once. He looks like he’s about to pass out just from running 10 yards. It’s inexcusable for a PRO athlete. Talented but limited due to physical capabilities. Seemed to struggle and wish he had more hussle which would help him get involved. -5

    Roger-he’s not a winger so I don’t blame him for being misused. -4

    Diaz- not his best night but he was definitely marked hard. Think teams are watching him closely and it doesn’t help we don’t have other players as explosive as he is to balance it out. Still he tries and I respect that. -6

    Falcao-been saying this forever. If we don’t have the ball this guy isn’t doing anything. If we were playing a weaker team at home than I’m all in for Falcao. But if we are chasing the game than use Duvan to give those CB a hard time. Not involved and last night he really showed his aging self. -4

    Not going to fill this with ratings on all the subs but will point out things I’ve already said. I want us to get more balanced with proper players where they belong. Sinisterra needs to play at RW to add speed and width. If we are going to keep using Borre than it should be in the proper formation. This team needs a lot of adjustments. I’m happy we tied Uruguay away and a tie with Brazil is always nice. But when are we ever going to tell ourselves. “Hey, we can beat these guys” yesterday was an open match for the taking. And per usual, we did not capitalize.
     
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  13. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Portugal
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    In my opinion, Rueda came out with the wrong starting forward if his plan was to counter attack. He needed to start a faster forward. I would have started Rogers as 9 and Sinistierra on on the wings. I understand why he used Lerma but he did not perform. I wish he had the same attitude that he came out against Uruguay.
     
  14. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Between Lerma/Uribe/Cuellar - i feel you can flip a 3-sided dice and between the three of them you're going to be a solid 6.5 / 7.0 performance.

    I saw some other names come up like Cantillo and I'm eager to try that or maybe even Cuadrado as a CM - it's a good way for him to stop doing runs down the sideline hoping to draw a foul or crossing the ball to noone (i think he is just acting on boss' orders). Cuadrado has a great in-game IQ and i think he can offer a lot in a CM role.

    Going forward
    1. Ecuador (home) - must get 3 points

    2. Brazil (away) - draw/win would be fantastic - won't hold my breath. just want goal difference to be preserved

    3. Peru (home) - must get 3 points

    4. Argentina (away) - won't hold my breath here. They are firing from all cylinders. just want goal difference to be preserved

    5. Bolivia (home) - must get 3 points

    6. Venezuela (away) - i know they give us trouble historically, but we need 3 if we want momentum going into WC 2022
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You forgot Paraguay at home which is a must get 3 points.

    Hopefully we clinch before Venezuela cause I am not expecting to win there.
     
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  16. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    thanks for picking up that oversight! i certainly hope we do clinch before venezuela so we can test other players =)
     
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  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hmmm i wouldnt say that of lerma, we need memory pills:

    1.agaisnt uruguay-ecuador 2020....he arguably was on the worse...as the whole team he was 3 points...(barrios didnt play almost those matches)

    2. against argentina in barraqnuilla in june he was so bad and was main repsonsible we were losing 2 -0 soon.....thanks god rueda reacted fast and get him out......but that match was like a 3.

    the guy have to proved that actually he is NT category....he improved at the beggining of queiroz wcq...but since pekerman his game have been very average.......
     
  18. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    those are good points. Lerma was awful in those games, but so was everyone else LOL

    If i had to rank the CMs - i would rank Uribe, Cuellar and then Lerma. especially with Lerma playing in 2nd division. i would like to see Cuellar get more minutes b/c i think he can be a regular starter
     
  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    the newbies that havent been called up...i think should be urgent that atuesta have to be add in the roster.....young, captain of u -23 it seeems that the problem is mls...but rueda called chara....
     
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  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    With Campaz struggling to adapt to Brasil and James an enigma and Quintero's general fitness it is very weird that Atuesta hasn't had a chance.
     
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  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he didn't play at Nacional
     
  22. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Neither did Campaz and he got a shot?
     
  23. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This is infuriating.

    Dude doesn't just touch it with his hand - he bats the ball down with it!

     
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  24. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    The reg seemed so desperate not to give the ok. Like screaming and not letting them talk
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That is a tough one. His arm is in a natural position and he is not trying to make himself bigger or extend it.

    It is one of those things where there is no clear and obvious evidence to overturn the call (or non call) on the field.
     
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