NSR: CHICAGO Political Thread ***HIGHLY TOXIC - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK***

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by skinut, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    So this discussion reminds me of a song by my favorite Polish band Kult called "waiting for the kingdom of God", here is a rough translation of my favorite part:

    First, the best king is no king
    Second, the best government is no government
    Third, the best master is no master
    The worst time is the last time

    And I'm telling you that those who have power create messes and roll in it.

    And I'm telling you that whoever has power, Should always, always disgust you.

     
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  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, and, on the radical political spectrum, they are not very far left.

    Norway is fascinating. Yes, they are as "liberal" (left) as any nation on earth, but it is odd that they still have a "king," still have compulsory military service (for men and women), mandatory religious education (in public schools), and civil cases have to go to "conciliation" before going to court.

    Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland usually top the list of most "liberal" and most tolerant, but I don't think they are necessarily that far left.

    They do provide the best quality of life for their citizens, and, generally, non-citizens. I don't see that as being "left" or "right" but just good sound policy. Of course, I guess I would being a "leftie" or something.

    It is too bad that we are a point in history where just about all things (even "facts," the friggin' Pandemic and the vaccine) are seen through the "left" v. "right" lens.
     
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  3. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I agree.
     
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  4. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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    I remember taking this test in high school and I'm surprisingly consistent.
     
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  5. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1441469051012845569 is not a valid tweet id
     
  6. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Traffic light coalition incoming with Scholz as chancellor
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  7. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So why ain’t weed legal?
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  8. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  9. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Some things never change: protestant/catholic 1894, Reichstag 1930, Bundestag 2021

     
  10. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Wisconsin? Hey @xtomx i think these are technically made in Kenosha wink wink
     
  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Cannabis is completely illegal in Wisconsin, there is not even medical marijuana. Gov. Evers puts legalization in his plan every year (and brings it up more often than not). The Republicans refuse to even consider it.

    I think it is the beer lobby that is behind the blocking of legalization.
     
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  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    “Existing statutes give the President and his Treasury De- partment broad authority to implement important elements of the administration’s tax agenda without further congressional action. And yet only occasionally does the executive branch exercise this statutory “power to tax.” Instead, the President often asks Congress to pass revenue-raising measures achiev- ing what the President and his Treasury Department already could accomplish on their own.”



    https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4722&context=clr

    Mancin should get on board or Biden should tax coal at $10k an ounce.
     
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  13. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I should just move to Amsterdam. At least they prioritize keeping it above water.
     
  14. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny I got some thc poprocks made in kenosha the other day. I don't understand laws. What's your retainer? PM your address i'll send you some malort
     
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  15. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    ******** that guy.
     
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  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    American woman shows with her own example how her family would pay twice as much for Ami private healthcare vs German public healthcare. Twice as much but only in a best-case/never use Ami private healthcare case. It's a bit long but you should invest the time to learn about this
     
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, we all know this.
    We have the most expensive, least equitable health "care" system in the western world.
    No need to "learn" about it.

    Who the hell is "Ami," anyway?
     
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  18. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh heaven forbid common decency is on the table. @xtomx for my will all I want is to be frozen and woken up right as society collapses. I want to watch it. vtxfh5q2liu71 (1).jpg
     
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  19. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I swear there is a large group of people for whom “Socialism” is basically “anything that doesn’t allow the ruling class complete and total control of laborers every working second”.
     
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  20. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I can't rep this enough.
     
  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #4946 xtomx, Oct 20, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2021
    Government has been telling corporations how to run their businesses for as long as there have been governments or businesses.

    Shit, corporations are, but definition, creatures of government.

    They want freedom? Yank their corporate status and let every one of the motherf'ers to be personally and unlimitedly liable for for the damage they cause.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    You have been watching for the past few years.

    Just wait 'til 2023-2024. The next Presidential run will be excruciating.
     
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  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ami ist short for American. I know you guys know this. The newsworthy and worthy to learn about part is the exact figures she states. You’d probably know about this if you had watched the video
     
  24. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Problem for the rest of the world is that America's extremely high drug prices are subsidizing drugs/Healthcare for everyone else. What if, when the US inevitably moves to a single payer system and the government negotiates prices, the US passed a law stating that drugs had to be cheaper here than anywhere else? The US is the largest drug market in the world at about 40% of total global revenue (and that's without a large portion of the population not participating at the moment). Drugs would inevitably become more expensive everywhere else.
     
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  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No, "Ami" is not short for America.

    I have lived in the US for over half a century and I have NEVER used or even heard anyone in the US use that term.

    As for the cost of health care, again, we all know this. Just because this may be "news" to you, it is not news to us. We have been living that nightmare our entire lives.

    Next, why don't post some "insightful" video on the US military budget being larger than 10 next largest militaries combined?

    Just go away, please.
     

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