England Under 21 Discussions Thread #7

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  1. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    I'm really suprised Lewis-Potter hasn't been called up to any age group. 13 goals in League One is really not to be sniffed at.
     
  2. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    People need to bare in mind that the U20s barely played a game from 2020-now, especially for certain age groups.

    There have been a lot less caps to go around, let this cycle play out for a while
     
  3. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Is this game annoyingly not being broadcast? Slovenia match was in Sky Sports
     
  4. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
    The FA have surprisingly gone to the effort of streaming the match via YouTube.
     
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  5. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
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    Torquay United
    they stream every away game that isn't broadcast on BT or Sky and have done for years now
     
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  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Not quite sure how someone who regularly plays for the French champions and plays Champions league can’t get a start in a game like this is quite puzzling but then again that’s just the norm these days being an England fan and being puzzled with selections, especially at U21 level. Good to see Green get a start though.
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I can sort of understand not starting Gomes with it being his first call up. I wouldn’t do it personally but I can understand wanting the player to train with the squad primarily for the first meet up. At best getting time off the bench.

    Brewster starting again though? Or Curtis Jones not starting?
     
  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I thought Jones was injured? Yeah Brewster starting was my other gripe to be honest, think I would have rather seen Balogun starting as the striker.
     
  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    He is on the bench. Assuming he’s fully fit.
     
  11. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Too many wide diagonal balls that just slow everything down. Quite a tough watch in that half.
     
  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah but I think also there’s a big overkill with the three midfielders in the middle who do little creatively in the centre. Might as well just use Gallagher as box to box and substitute Doyle and Garner for Jones and Gomes.
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Yeah, we’ve not really got the midfield balance right in either game.

    TBF to Andorra the past few games we have played against them they have given us a good test. Certainly better drilled defensively than many U21 qualifying teams.
     
  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That’s absolutely shocking refereeing!!! He just shown a card because of the player play acting! Lol
     
  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Why was there such a wait to give the card too? Bizarre. Sums up Brewster’s luck too.
     
  16. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #12516 Slater582, Oct 11, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2021
    Phew! Failing to win here, following the draw in Slovenia, would've really complicated qualification. Should've known it'd be difficult given the 3-3 game was only 12 months ago.

    Glad Carsley got his subs right, not sure they'd have got the result without Curtis Jones.
     
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  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
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    Manchester City FC
    Well, after going down to 10 men I guess you just take the points and move on but my god Andorra are a horrible side to play against at U21 level but made difficult by ourselves and selections. I know they have given us a hard time before for some reason but we have to get that midfield balance right with more creativity than grafters when playing against a parked bus who just want to keep the score to a minimum. Ref had a shocker for the Brewster red also but we played much better when Jones and Gomes came on.
     
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  18. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Not impressed at all with Carsley, his starting 11 lack creativity, the results have been suspect too
     
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  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Against these types of side you need more creative players. Why Gomes didn't start I cannot understand. I go on about Brewster a lot but I can't understand why we're not trying something else. He's not scored a league goal for two seasons and his record for England u21 is abysmal. 1 penalty goal in 15 appearances! Surely one of the other forwards deserves a chance.
     
  20. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I always look forward to them but I honestly can't remember the last time I was entertained watching the U21s. Maybe that match a few years back when Ravel Morrison and Zaha played(and almost got into a fight on the pitch lol). I think the likes of Garner and Gallagher are plenty creative but creativity in general has difficulty being shown in the U21 shirt.

    That and Andorra play with a 100% focus on defence which represents difficulty. It was always going to difficult for them to maintain their defensive shape when you add fresh legs to the pitch.

    I'd be really open to experimenting with Gomes as a false 9 - at least until another striking option appears.
     
  21. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Wouldn’t say Gallagher and garner are very creative. Gallagher has a good eye for goal and garner a decent passing range. Gomes Jones ESR Palmer are the most creative at disposal
     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, you have to wonder how long they will persist with a striker that can’t get a kick for a Championship team and clearly lacking in confidence and more to the point, a shadow of the player he was from his U17 days. Like what someone else pointed out, he’s a million miles away to have the potential to be a senior International player so they really should look at either other options like Balogun or playing a false 9 like Smith-Rowe who I think could do a good job.
     
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  23. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    In the last bunch we arguably stuck with Nketiah for too long as well - at the expense of freezing out more promising players like Brereton at the time.

    At least Nketiah was getting us goals though. I'm not sure what Brewster is offering us at the moment which sounds very harsh to say.
     
  24. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Its difficult in the case of Nketiah. His goal scoring record at youth level was incredible. You just don’t know if youth players will adapt to senior football. Unfortunately Nketiah has struggled to make the step up so far.
     
  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Like Thomas not even on the bench for Leicester today. Is he injured otherwise a bit worrying for him going forward.
     

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