Best 11 Right Now

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  1. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s a reason he played in every game for the French champions. He’s class and works his butt off.
     
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  2. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    Ajax is fun and weird, but it doesn’t really affect the league rankings. Both ranking systems put France in 5th. They disagree about whether Serie A is better than the Bundesliga. UEFA’s method, which just looks at the best teams of a league overestimates (for my purposes) leagues without parity, such as Austria and Scotland. And UEFA doesn’t rank MLS, the Championship, or Argentina
     
  3. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Jury is still out on Weah for me.

    Ill be in Austin at the game.

    What I want to see:

    Aaroson-Pepi-Hoppe
    ——Wes—- Musah—
    ——- Adams—-
    A. Rob - M. Rob - Richards - Dest
    ————— Steffen——-
     
  4. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Yes, agree, but Serie A and BL are close and Ligue 1 is probably way closer to Portugal and Dutch leagues than to any of them.
     
  5. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Ligue Un is more exciting with their forwards relentlessly go for the goal.
     
  6. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you are undervaluing Ligue 1, which is a much stronger league than the Eredivisie.
     
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  7. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    That's not just me, that's UEFA as well. PSG pulls it above, of course, but no way it's a part of some Big 5 which mostly exists only on BS. I think that top 5-6 players from any MLS team would be able to play there, and that's not the case with Germany or Italy.
     
  8. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    LOL. MLS teams cannot even beat average Mexican League teams, yet 5 or 6 players from any MLS team could walk onto a Ligue 1 team? There seem to be no limits to MLS fanboy delusion.
     
  9. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ligue 1 is closer to Serie A and Bundesliga than to the Dutch or Portuguese leagues. I watch it and MLS regularly. I'm a huge MLS fan, but no, only a handful of players in MLS would be consistently in a Ligue 1 club's starting 11.
     
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  10. VictoryWePredict4Thee

    VictoryWePredict4Thee BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2019
    The pressure is on Brooks. Hopefully it pushes him to be better.
     
  11. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    The Best XI from this roster:

    ---------------------Turner
    Dest----Robinson----Richards----Robinson
    --------Musah----Adams----McKennie
    -----------Weah----Pepi----Aaronson
     
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  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    MLS teams haven't won CCL yet, but they rarely even play "average" Mexican League teams and they often beat strong Mexican League teams.

    Columbus literally beat Cruz Azul on Wednesday night, who is middle of the table right now but won Liga MX last year. And Columbus is currently 9th in the Eastern conference.

    Could 5-6 players from any MLS team get playing time (which was the comment) on a Ligue 1 team? Very probably true for at least a lot of MLS teams. The bottom of the table probably not, though.

    After all, the weakness of the MLS roster schema isn't in the Top 5 -- it's in the back end of the roster.

    For example, Atlanta has Josef Martinez (who played at Torino), Ezequiel Barco (starred in Libertadores), Marcelino Moreno (Boca and Lanus), Miles Robinson, who is outplaying pretty much every US centerback and has shut down a number of Liga MX stars in club play, and Luis Araujo ... who literally got a bunch of time on Lille in Ligue 1 just last year.

    Atlanta is 6th in the Eastern Conference.

    Are there 5-6 guys on San Jose? Eh, probably not. But much of MLS absolutely has the players.
     
  13. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    My best XI as well.

    Love the depth we are starting to enjoy. Can't remember the last time the USMNT were missing arguably our top two players (Puli, Reyna) and I still felt this excited about a squad. In the Donovan-Dempsey era, we would've been screwed.
     
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  14. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    We may still be screwed because that is a very, very young lineup. Anything can happen with those guys. And I really don't expect more than 7 or 8 of those guys to start. I imagine Lletget and Zardes will get the start against Jamaica.
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Per 90, for his position, Musah is bottom 40% in pass completion, bottom 1% in progressive passes, bottom 23%
    in progressive carries, and bottom 5% in sca.

    He looks to have nice potential, however, a central midfield of him, McKennie, and Adams doesn't project to have the needed creativity.
     
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  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He plays wide for Valencia instead of centrally, yes? Or are all mids lumped together.
     
  17. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I started off thinking that those 3 were a nice starting midfield trio until I saw that none of them are really reliable forward passers. And since Adams is clearly the best 6 as far as I can tell, it comes down to EITHER McKennie OR Musah if you are playing 3 CMs. The third person has to be someone who combines well moving forward, not another bull in a china shop like McKennie. Also, have people given up on Brooks that fast, for Richards? It was literally a month ago that people would bite your head off if you said he wasn't the first guy on the teamsheet, along the backline. Now, he is almost an afterthought. My head is spinning from the quickness of that 180 by the fanbase.
     
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  18. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Our midfield isn’t one to control the game with the ball. They are there to make plays, win the ball, move it forward quickly, crash the box, then cover defensively. I think this is why GB keeps stressing “verticality” as we aren’t so great when the opposition sits back. We are young and not very deep at CM.
     
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  19. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I suspect part of the reason for the 180 on Brooks is that people had discreetly forgotten about his brain farts, but then those memories came rushing back a few critical times last window. And now he may be benched by his club, too. He's in really, really bad form and it's obvious. I guess we'll see what Berhalter thinks of his form when the 7th rolls around.

    Personally, I'm not one that's "excited" about Richards getting a start. More like anxious. He's a really good player but there's a big risk involved in putting him in. It might be a best scenario if we're in control of game 1 and he can come in as a sub for 20 minutes. No way I see him starting in Panama. Maybe game 3 at home against Costa Rica he could get the start.
     
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  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point... I would bet on Berhalter throws him into the fire against Jamaica... it’s at home. And they’re not playing well. Seems like the most risk averse move to make.
     
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  21. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Give a DR3 (Dest, A. Robinson, M. Robinson and Richards) in the back. MMA (Musah, McKennie and Adams) in the middle. AHP on top.
     
  22. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, with the view from today of Jamaica's roster it seems far more likely that Richards might actually get the start tomorrow. Before several high-profile players dropped from their roster I would have thought it unlikely. It's lucky for us that Richards might get a start earlier than I would have expected, because he's clearly got a very high ceiling and will likely become a top CB for us for years to come (knock on wood). These are the fortuitous circumstances that allow lesser-experienced players (or players who otherwise have been further down the chart) to get their shots to prove themselves. Moore benefitted from this very recently, and took his opportunity well. It's a real thing, but you've got to be there and be willing to get the chance. With the level of competition there currently is with the USMNT (and, further, the projected competition in the next few years), any player that turns down a callup because they aren't sure if they'll get PT is a doofus.
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    July 25:
    Maybe now?
     
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  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Musah showed the value of a midfielder who can drive an attack and connect with forwards. It makes everyone, the front line and the wingbacks much more effective. De la Torre showed it too, even though they accomplish the same result in different ways. Musah is best 11 right now.

    Not sure why Gregg believes Richard’s inexperience with WCQ/CONCACAF is any more of an impediment to a starting job than Musah’s.
     
  25. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He doesn't think that. He said in the last press conference that there's no way around it and that it's time to get the young CBs some experience in this window. However, you can't just stack players with a lack of experience with the team in one WCQ. And, for as possibly disatrous as it can be to have that inexperience in the central midfield, it can be even more disastrous at CB.

    I would be more surpised if Richards doesn't start one game than if he starts one of the next 2.
     
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